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grunewar Wed Nov 29, 2017 09:54pm

NBE's Worst - Wizards vs Sixers
 
My son calls me upstairs and asks me to watch the Wizards vs Sixers tonight, as the Wizards are pulling the "hack-a-shack" on Ben Simmons. I couldn't watch more than five minutes.

Down by 24, in the fourth, every time the Sixers in-bounded the ball, they fouled Simmons - whether he had the ball or not. About 2-3 seconds ran off the clock each time. They fouled him in twelve straight possessions. His FT percentage was atrocious as he alone shot ~ 20 FT's in the quarter! The Sixers had over 60 FT's in the game and both teams combined for 97 FT's! A long, long quarter......

Can you imagine being at the game? Reffing it? Where is the entertainment value? Was this the way basketball was intended to be played? What a joke! I walked away.

The Wizards came back to within three and eventually lost. Why did the Sixers coach keep even him in the game?

Cringe-worthy. I'm sure the pundits will have many comments tomorrow.

ODog Wed Nov 29, 2017 09:56pm

Grune, did you happen to see the technical foul assessed on the Philly player with 22.2 seconds left? I would've let that go even in a CYO game.

grunewar Thu Nov 30, 2017 04:45am

Quote:

Originally Posted by ODog (Post 1012057)
Grune, did you happen to see the technical foul assessed on the Philly player with 22.2 seconds left? I would've let that go even in a CYO game.

No. Traditionally, I can't watch the NBA. I only watched for a few minutes in the middle of the 4th Qtr. With all the fouling it was a joke, not basketball as I know it.

A Pennsylvania Coach Thu Nov 30, 2017 09:15am

I watched this game. I like the NBA rules are such that players are almost "required" to be good free throw shooters or suffer this fate. I also liked Brent Brown letting Simmons work through it and overcome it. The alternative was to risk his psyche by pulling him out.

Lastly, I'd hope nobody would let Saric's ball spike go, where the ball went 20 feet in the air. That's as easy a T as there is.

AremRed Thu Nov 30, 2017 12:21pm

If you don't like that, then you don't like NBA basketball!

FormerUmp Thu Nov 30, 2017 03:50pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by AremRed (Post 1012097)
If you don't like that, then you don't like NBA basketball!

Is the NBA really basketball? I've heard of it being described more as "sports entertainment" than the sport of basketball.

Of course that may have been a hearsay description of a conversation a friend who was being trained as a rec league official has with the official training him. I'm unsure of the trainer's background.

Off-topic... are adult rec leagues as painful to officiate in basketball as they seem to be in baseball?

UNIgiantslayers Thu Nov 30, 2017 03:58pm

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Originally Posted by FormerUmp (Post 1012125)

Off-topic... are adult rec leagues as painful to officiate in basketball as they seem to be in baseball?

Yes. I quit in the middle of the season last year because it was so bad. My assignor was not supportive of the officials, so I told him to find someone else to be abused for $25/hr.

Raymond Thu Nov 30, 2017 04:30pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by FormerUmp (Post 1012125)
Is the NBA really basketball? I've heard of it being described more as "sports entertainment" than the sport of basketball.

...

Yes. And NBA officials are by far the best basketball officials in the country and provide the best training.

ODog Thu Nov 30, 2017 09:15pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by A Pennsylvania Coach (Post 1012071)
Lastly, I'd hope nobody would let Saric's ball spike go, where the ball went 20 feet in the air. That's as easy a T as there is.

I'd pass. Who cares that the ball went 20 feet in the air? It wasn't to taunt, it wasn't to dis the officials and it didn't delay the game. Just a spaz move, nothing more.

And to whoever asked if adult basketball is painful to officiate, here's some advice: Don't try to find out. The worst.

Camron Rust Fri Dec 01, 2017 12:47am

Quote:

Originally Posted by ODog (Post 1012140)
I'd pass. Who cares that the ball went 20 feet in the air? It wasn't to taunt, it wasn't to dis the officials and it didn't delay the game. Just a spaz move, nothing more.

Agree. I'm not calling that for those reasons.

BillyMac Fri Dec 01, 2017 06:53am

Taunt, Disrespect ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ODog (Post 1012140)
It wasn't to taunt, it wasn't to dis the officials ...

In my high school game, any sign that this was done to taunt, or disrespect, anybody, and I mean even a small sign, and I'm charging a technical foul. Absent those signs, I'm passing, but I will definitely warn the player that he barely dodged a bullet this time.

SC Official Fri Dec 01, 2017 08:47am

There is nothing in the rules that makes spiking the ball an automatic T even though some officials apply it that way.

AremRed Fri Dec 01, 2017 09:50am

Quote:

Originally Posted by AremRed (Post 1012097)
If you don't like that, then you don't like NBA basketball!

Quote:

Originally Posted by FormerUmp (Post 1012125)
Is the NBA really basketball? I've heard of it being described more as "sports entertainment" than the sport of basketball.

Of course that may have been a hearsay description of a conversation a friend who was being trained as a rec league official has with the official training him. I'm unsure of the trainer's background.

It was a play on the Sacramento King's announcers tagline:

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/VuOzYN3SC9s?rel=0&amp;showinfo=0&amp;start=77" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

JRutledge Fri Dec 01, 2017 10:49am

What am I missing? Boogie Cousins is not there anymore? Where is the play in question?

Peace


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