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I will take requests again. I will need the game, time and the type of play.

So this play I would need something like this

Here is the first play of the year.

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Peace

Thanks, Jeff for your past and future efforts.

Block...moving forward and to the side into the path after shooter jumped. Easy to get wrong if you only look at the feet but the body is what defines the actual position.

EDIT: This is pretty much play 10 (a block) in the NCAA block/charge video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxOAMMB6Sjg

Sure looks like a charge to me. Both feet were down and set before the shooter left his feet. Took it in the chest.

I agree. I am giving the defender the benefit of the doubt in these plays.

Peace

Agree with the PC here, but can we talk about the L's mechanic on this? That movement could easily be confused with 'count the bucket' in my view. Is the behind the head PC signal not required in college?

We are supposed to go fist, then hand behind the head. On plays to the baskets I try to remember to go hand/head for that very reason, as not to confuse folks thinking I'm counting the basket.

On non-shooting plays I sometimes go with just the direction. But I'm working on always going hand behind the head.

PC.

These videos are always great and bring great discussions. Thanks


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I would recommend getting this out of your vocabulary.

That being said, I agree that this is a PC, and quite frankly I don't think it's that close. What does the defender do wrong?

And on PC fouls I go fist up then point (not punch) the other way. Hand behind the head at the spot looks weak and goofy–I save that for my report to the table.

This is pretty much play 10 (a block) in the NCAA block/charge video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxOAMMB6Sjg

He continued to slide right after the shooter jumped. Yes, he got the feet down, but then slid them over to get into the path of the airborne shooter.

I do not think it is anything like play 10. The defender completely is shifting his body to make contact. The play I posted was a defender with his feet in place and all he does is get ready for contact. And again, I am giving all the benefit to the defender. It does not say they cannot have their body move at all.

Peace

After further review, I'm going to agree with you. The shooter's foot was not off the floor as soon as I thought. By the time it was off the floor, the defender had already shifted over enough.

The college supervisor who pays me the most money per game explicitly wants it done that way, so call me Goofy.

That's his prerogative. Thankfully, I don't work for anyone that requires that. When/if I ever do, I'll adjust.

In real time, I'm going PC on this. Defender's left foot does slide slightly after shooter becomes airborne, but I don't think defender is ever out of his vertical, is he? If he is, it's just barely and I'm pretty sure I wouldn't see that in live action.

Thankfully I do, because it's very good money.

And I've seen myself on video doing it, and it was pretty smooth.

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I like this response the most. While reviewing the video, I see the defender getting there so late that as he’s trying to straighten his knees and stand tall, his hips and torso are still moving toward the shorter when contact occurs. Block.

In reality, am I going to have time as the lead to look up from the feet and judge this in time? Nope. Charge.


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I’m going to disagree that defender was “late”. ...Did the defender establish legal guarding position? ( both feet on the ground, facing the opponent)...

Once the defender has established the position and attained the spot on the floor.. the defender is entitled to the space on the floor and the vertical space. If the defender is in his vertical space and offender causes contact, responsibility is on offense player for contact... no different to me than turning to absorb shock that makes it look like torso is moving toward offense...contact occurs on Torso...

A couple of philosophy notes.

I agree with the statement in previous post...What did the defender do wrong? He did it right, he’s defending the goal and taking a drive away...

Call this a charge and the offensive team thinks twice about making this plays to the basket.... Call it a block and the offensive team will continue to drive like this and make the game rougher.

Refereeing the defense here is more than watching the feet and then looking up... it’s the defender playing basketball. All too often we referee with the assumption that the defense is always wrong. The better way to look at it... the defender is always legal... and once the defender proves they do something wrong, then blow the whistle..

In this play the defender has shown me nothing that violates a rule.

This is a fair point. I’ve heard this “prove the negative” philosophy before and it does make for a great way to see the game and keep a patient whistle.

That said, at least from a video review perspective, I see the defender doing something wrong by moving toward the offensive player after LGP is established. I guess we’ll have to agree to disagree.



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Video proof requested.

Totally agree with this statement and started recognizing this in the last 5 years or so. If you call fouls on the defender, you will not give the offensive player any incentive to pull up and shoot or pass the ball so they do not get get a foul called on them. This cleans up the game so much when you call offensive fouls and we stop penalizing the defense for every movement they make and we find reasons to call fouls on them.

Exactly. Most of the times like these, this is an offensive foul.

Peace

I have seen Raymond work. He is the epitome of smoooooth.:D