Offensive or a Block??
 

A coach text me with this play. His gripes.. it was a flop, the kid starts his flight before kid is set. What do you think??

https://youtu.be/NZ7nO62rDvg

Pc

The angle/perspective of this video makes it extremely difficult to decide if there is a block or player control foul on this play. It appears the defender was able to face A1 with both feet on the ground, but it is almost impossible to determine if B1 attained LGP before A1 left the floor to attempt the try for goal.

Hopefully, the C official was strong on this play in his primary and made the call. Difficult to tell from this abbreviated vid.

Pc
 

From this angle, PC. Defense can move to absorb contact.

Close enough where either call is right and coach should learn to accept the results.

To me, this is an obvious PC foul.

Obvious PC

My first thought is it's probably a PC if the coach's complaint uses the word "set."

I'll watch the video later to see if I'm right.

Pc

PC foul.

Peace

Calling this a flop...especially by officials that like to post in Facebook groups...triggers my delicate sensibilities.

This is not a flop in the least. Looks like an easy PC to me.

Offensive or a Block??
 

I would agree with charge calls.

And be careful about engaging with coaches personally. Not a good practice to start and our assn forbids it. Just something to think about.

Obviously, depends on where you are in your career. IF I was sent this video I'd tell the coach
1. first thing I see is 3 or 4 defenders and your kid dribbling under the board...
2. If he passes the ball or stops and powers up this decision (block/charge) doesn't have to be made.

3. Your kid didn't pass or power up...kept gliding through. Crash occurs.
4. If you make official make a decision then he will, hopefully, and u might not like his decision. (A no call would be bad here)
5. Refereeings hard. Referees make mistakes. BUT
6. This is an obvious charge. Not even close. Teach him to power up or pass the damn ball.

Your association basically says you can't be friends with coaches?? Yikes. Well, I'm from a middle size town 200,000 people and many officials and coaches are friends off the court. Today I was at a funeral with 5 officials and 4 or 5 coaches. Last Saturday I was at a local pub with a bunch of officials and coaches. This particular coach has been one of my good friends since I was young. I am doing his game tonight everyone knows I'm his friend and everyone knows I'm impartial as well. I think that line of officials stay away from coaches is a bad line. Anyways, I told him PC all day.

I just watched the video. Yep, PC all the way, all day, every day. The coach's concern about where the shooter was when the defender got his feet set display his misunderstanding of the play. Two feet on the floor, facing the opponent, in the path. Not even at question, but not really necessary as he was in his spot on the floor before the shooter left, even if his feet were shifting slightly.

The flop: No, just no.

Anticipating contact and starting to fall early is not a flop. I can jeopardize a call, because sometimes defenders fall so early as to render contact minimal or irrelevant. This kid gets run over anyway. He created extra space for the shooter by his backwards lean, but the shooter used it all up and then some.

No no. Don't take me wrong. More so they forbid issues like this. Coaches/officials interacting about games and officiating issues. Not so much of being friends with someone off the floor, though it's probably best to limit that stuff as much as possible. Basketball fans are so nuts, I don't want to give any air of impropriety.

Fairly Easy ...
 

Player control foul.

RA block....oh wait, my bad.

PC every day and twice on Sunday.

Oh yeah that makes sense. He will hit me up with a rules question here and there. I provide the answer. I think it does good. Like in this sense I showed him responses and he gets it now.

How does everyone know you are impartial?

Are there officials in your association who are known to be partial?

What if you had thought the officials missed the call?

I'm surprised coach didn't say something about the defender being under the basket. :cool:

I assign as well as officiate.

If a coach in my conference asks me to look at video, he gets the truth as I see it. 80% of the time, he doesn't like my answer. If I didn't answer honestly the 20% of the time the coach was right, I have no credibility.

I think your position as an assigner probably gives you the responsibility to provide that sort of feedback. Other officials may be comfortable doing so for friends and close colleagues, even if they're not in positions of authority. I'd be very hesitant to even comment that the officials were right for the very reason you mention, and it's the reason I asked the question.

If you're going to say when you think the officials were right, you have to be willing to say you think the officials missed it.

Charge/Player Control Foul. Be careful with the questions that you ask. Use proper terminology. Being "set" has nothing to do with block/charge call. Needs to have LGP and the defender appeared to have that.

PC and not just saying it because the coach didn't think so :D!

I certainly don't see a flop.