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UNIgiantslayers Fri Feb 03, 2017 10:13pm

Intentional on made basket- NFHS
 
... is still 2 shots and ball, correct? Looking at 10-7-4, and I can't find an exception for a made basket. Coach was adamant it was only one shot. Was going to send video to state and assignor.

bigbeardedbryan Fri Feb 03, 2017 10:37pm

Correct.

Always nice when a coach sends in video showing you doing the right thing!

Rich Fri Feb 03, 2017 10:39pm

Yes. I've called this at least twice myself.

UNIgiantslayers Fri Feb 03, 2017 10:47pm

I've never had it so I was questioning myself until I read the rule book. Thanks for the confirmation, guys.

jamesshank Fri Feb 03, 2017 11:46pm

In the case book, it specifically covers this.

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ODog Fri Feb 03, 2017 11:53pm

The only time an intentional foul is NOT two shots is when it's on a missed 3-pointer (in which case, it's 3 shots, obviously).

crosscountry55 Sat Feb 04, 2017 12:03am

Quote:

Originally Posted by ODog (Post 999231)
The only time an intentional foul is NOT two shots is when it's on a missed 3-pointer (in which case, it's 3 shots, obviously).

Which I have never seen. Yet.

I did, however, see a first half video once of a Coach getting a T while an opponent was winding up for a three. Then he got intentionally fouled in the act of shooting said three. And the three was good!

Enjoy figuring out how to administer that penalty sequence (bonus points if you can successfully describe it under both NFHS and NCAA rules....heck, throw FIBA in there as well).

Welpe Sat Feb 04, 2017 03:34am

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Originally Posted by crosscountry55 (Post 999232)
Which I have never seen. Yet.

I did, however, see a first half video once of a Coach getting a T while an opponent was winding up for a three. Then he got intentionally fouled in the act of shooting said three. And the three was good!

Enjoy figuring out how to administer that penalty sequence (bonus points if you can successfully describe it under both NFHS and NCAA rules....heck, throw FIBA in there as well).

NFHS:

Answering without the book:

False multiple foul, enforce penalties in order of occurrence. The three point basket counts. Two free throws for the technical by anybody on offense. Then the fouled shooter will shoot two free throws for the intentional foul. The offense then gets the ball out of bounds nearest the spot of the foul. A potential 7 point play plus the ball!

LRZ Sat Feb 04, 2017 07:58am

CB 4.19.3 Situation A(a): an intentional foul on A1 in the act of shooting a successful 3 point shot = 2 FTs + throw-in.

crosscountry55 Sat Feb 04, 2017 08:51am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Welpe (Post 999240)
NFHS:



Answering without the book:



False multiple foul, enforce penalties in order of occurrence. The three point basket counts. Two free throws for the technical by anybody on offense. Then the fouled shooter will shoot two free throws for the intentional foul. The offense then gets the ball out of bounds nearest the spot of the foul. A potential 7 point play plus the ball!


Yup! And I think you're right. When I watched the video, it dawned on me that---in NFHS, anyway---this would be the super rare time where you'd penalize the T first on a false multiple foul.


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bob jenkins Sat Feb 04, 2017 09:10am

Quote:

Originally Posted by crosscountry55 (Post 999246)
Yup! And I think you're right. When I watched the video, it dawned on me that---in NFHS, anyway---this would be the super rare time where you'd penalize the T first on a false multiple foul.

You could have a T, followed by a foul during the throw-in. That's a false multiple foul, with the T administered first.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Welpe (Post 999240)
NFHS:

Answering without the book:

False multiple foul, enforce penalties in order of occurrence. The three point basket counts. Two free throws for the technical by anybody on offense. Then the fouled shooter will shoot two free throws for the intentional foul. The offense then gets the ball out of bounds nearest the spot of the foul. A potential 7 point play plus the ball!

Same (generally) in NCAA -- but for different reasons.


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