PC Foul w/ BI or Goaltending
 

I know that if A1 drives the lane, releases a try, and is then called for a player control foul the basket (assuming it goes in) does not count. Is that the same if the try is interfered with (basket interference or goaltending)?

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4.19.6 SITUATION A:

B1 obtains a legal position in A1's path before A1 becomes airborne. A1 jumps and releases the ball on a try for goal. Before returning to the floor, airborne shooter A1 charges into B1. (a) Before the foul by A1, B2 commits basket interference; or (b) after the foul on A1, B2 slaps the ball on its downward flight.

RULING: In (a), both the violation and the foul are penalized. The basket interference by B2 causes the ball to become dead immediately. The violation is penalized by awarding the two points. The player-control foul on A1 is also charged. Team B is awarded the ball for a throw-in anywhere along the end line. A defensive-goaltending or basket-interference violation committed prior to a player-control foul does not contradict the general statement that when a player-control foul occurs that player cannot score. In the case of a defensive violation, it is the violation which results in awarding the score. In (b), the ball becomes dead and the try ends immediately when the player-control foul on A1 occurs. The action of B2 is ignored as goaltending cannot occur after the try has ended. The ball is awarded to Team B for a throw-in from a designated spot out of bounds closest to where the foul occurred. (4-12-1; 6-7-4; 6-7-9 Exception; 7-5-4a; 9-11)

Thanks. I looked in this year's case book and didn't see anything. Is that from a previous year, or am I having more sight issues than coaches already think I do?

Its in the 16/17 book, try looking again

damn!

Does anyone recall seeing a video example of the first situation (where the BI or goal-tending occurs before the player returns to the floor?)

It seems like it would be logistically very difficult for this to occur, although not impossible.

I agree, this is hard to imagine happening. If it happened at all it would probably have to be bang-bang right in front of the basket.

Situation (a) would take five minutes alone to explain to Team B's incredulous coach:

Coach B: "How in the world do they get two points when they charged into my guy???"

Young U2: "Well coach, by rule in this particular case..."

Yeah, have fun with that one. [emoji6]


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This ruling makes no sense whatsover -- not unless a basket would count if released before the PC foul.

Also the ball become dead immediately on the basket interference so the contact on the PC foul would be dead ball contact.

I agree completely. Defender interfered with a dead ball.

Read the definition of PC foul. I don't have the books handy, but I'm pretty sure it includes the airborne shooter even after the ball is dead.

4-19-6 A player-control foul is a common foul committed by a player while he/she is in control of the ball or by an airborne shooter.
No mention of after the ball is dead.

Exception in rule 6. BI does not make ball dead if airborne shooter not returned to floor.

Read the definition of airborne shooter; I think the answer is there.


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The answer is in Rule6-9. The exception.