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jTheUmp Wed Jan 18, 2017 02:16pm

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Originally Posted by Whistles & Stripes (Post 997751)
I found the casebook play with the verbage that discusses this.

3.1.1 SITUATION:

After six players have been disqualified, Team A has only four who are eligible to continue in the game as players. In a gesture of fair play, the coach of Team B indicates a desire to withdraw a player so that each team will have four players on the court.

RULING: This is not permissible. Team B must have five players participating as long as it has that number available. If no substitute is available, a team must continue with fewer than five players. When only one player remains to participate, that team shall forfeit the game unless the referee believes this team still has an opportunity to win the game.

Ah, yes... I call it the "Hoosiers" ruling...
What the casebook doesn't say, of course, is that there's no requirement for the 5th player to actually have to participate in the game beyond being on the court.
"Coach, you have to have 5 players on the court, but you could just tell one of them to stand in the corner and not do anything"

scrounge Wed Jan 18, 2017 02:31pm

In addition to the casebook, the rule book has the same note


RULE 3, SECTION 1, ART. 1

Each team consists of five players, one of whom is the captain.

NOTE: A team must begin the game with five players, but if it has no substitutes to replace disqualified or injured players, it must continue with fewer than five. When there is only one player participating for a team, the team shall forfeit the game, unless the referee believes that team has an opportunity to win the game.

Raymond Wed Jan 18, 2017 08:07pm

Had a JuCo game where one team only dressed 6 or 7 . They got down to 4 players with a minute left and trailing by 3. They sent the game to OT and continued to keep pace before another player fouled out. 5 v. 3 was too much to overcome.

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LeeBallanfant Wed Jan 18, 2017 10:20pm

I guess if the team with more than one player gets foul shots, they keep on shooting until they make them or violate.

Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. Wed Jan 18, 2017 11:51pm

In the mid-1960s I saw an undefeated boy's VAR team come from 6 points down with 2:30 left in the 4th quarter to win by 2 points, and it did it on the road.

In the mid-1970s I had two women's college games end with one team having only 3 players left on the court.

MTD, Sr.

Nevadaref Thu Jan 19, 2017 02:56am

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Originally Posted by LeeBallanfant (Post 997810)
I guess if the team with more than one player gets foul shots, they keep on shooting until they make them or violate.

Not correct. I suggest that you consult the past interps archive.

BillyMac Thu Jan 19, 2017 07:37am

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Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 997823)
Not correct. I suggest that you consult the past interps archive.

2003-04 NFHS BASKETBALL RULES INTERPRETATIONS

SITUATION 2: Team A started the game with seven team members in the scorebook. All team members foul out but one, A1. Team A is leading by eight points with 38 seconds left in the game with a chance to win. A1 fouls B2 with Team B in the bonus. A1 occupies one of the first marked lane spaces for the free throw, with no teammate to occupy the other required space. RULING: By rule, a team may continue to play with one player if that team has an opportunity to win the game. Accordingly, since Team A can only put one player in the required free-throw marked lane space, it cannot be penalized. Further, Team B may not occupy the first marked lane space left vacant by Team A. (3-1-1 Note, 8-1-3)

Raymond Thu Jan 19, 2017 03:32pm

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Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 997823)
Not correct. I suggest that you consult the past interps archive.

Which is posted on the NFHS website?

You know, for the thousands of basketball officials who do not utilize this or any other social media for officiating guidance.

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