At high school level, do you allow assistant coaches to stand and yell at officials?
 

At high school level, do you allow assistant coaches to stand and yell at officials?

No. To both. They are not allowed to stand. And they are not allowed to yell at officials while sitting.

Doing one or the other will get a warning from me, to the head coach, the first time. Second time is a T.

Doing both at the same time will likely not get a warning, just the T.

At no level do I allow that. And at any level where a head coach is doing that, he will be addressed

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Is said AC on the bench or in the stands? ;)

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Uh no.

I do not allow assistants to yell at me period. Let alone stand and do so.

Peace

Is this a joke? Hell no.

This.

negative.
but how about a productive discussion about dealing with assistants...
we were discussing this today and i'm not sure of the OP's reasoning for asking, but there is a big gray area with assistant coaches.

i'd like to think that most have a job to do, else they wouldn't be there, and if approached in a kindly manner, with a legitimate question...i want to believe that they are asking for the benefit of the team and head coach while he/she could be busy coaching or instructing in a timeout. in cases like this, i think a lot of officials are quick to treat them like crap just because they are assistants and don't give them the time of day.
but obviously, there is zero to no tolerance for assistants that want to try to officiate or berate officials from the bench as the OP asked. but in those cases, sometimes officials can go the opposite way and completely ignore that because of the fact that they are assistants and don't give them the time of day, no matter what they do. here, it's our responsibility to 'nip that in the bud' and take care of business.
stop it when it starts or you'll be listening to it all game.

I'll answer a polite question from anyone, but I will not spend a minute dealing with an assistant who wants to argue. Second the question turns into that, I'm done with him/her the rest of the game.

They may have a job to do ... but that job does not, in any manner, involve arguing with or complaining to the officials. There is no gray area here at all. If there is for you, I would submit that you're doing it wrong.

i've seen this a lot too! getting "tricked" into a full blown convo with an assistant! sometimes you do have to take a step back and think, "wait a minute, you're not the HC"

this happened to me in a V game earlier this year. it was a 30+ pt blowout and the JV kids were in, and the HC was down at the end of the bench talking to his V kids. i made a call at Lead and came up to report and the JV coaches weren't thrilled with it (up 30) and i wanted to reinforce my call instead of just ignoring. but after a while i had to catch myself, as they were the assistants...
the HC didn't see the play or even care. but that is tough when a V game becomes a JV game

If you can't answer an assistant with a Yes, No, or a number ... he needs to be talking to his coach, and not you.

Eh, I'm not that bothered. On some teams, the assistant is useful for keeping a HC in line and there's no reason not to build a rapport with them.

Standing ...
 

Since when?

Bench personnel, including the head coach, shall not:
Stand at the team bench while the clock is running or is stopped,
and must remain seated, except:
a. The head coach as in 10-5-1.
b. When a team member is reporting to the scorer's table.
c. During a charged time-out, as in 5-11, or the intermission between quarters
and extra periods.
d. To spontaneously react to an outstanding play by a team member or to
acknowledge a replaced player(s), but must immediately return to his/her
seat.

Billy, even for you that's a silly response. He can also stand during timeouts, halftime, and if he raises his hand and says "Mother, may I?"

I think people mix up this conversation. Arguing with me about a call is not what an assistant gets the rope to do. Asking me a question during a timeout where there might be some information passed, OK. But I am not having a deep conversation with many assistants about anything. I do not like talking twice to a coaching staff when the head coach is the mouth piece of his or her program. I give the HC much more leeway to discuss things. I am also not having 2 or 3 conversations at once. So I will tell the HC that and make that clear.

Also what gets on my nerves is when officials say, "Assistants will be head coaches one day....blah...blah.....blah...." Well then they will learn when they get a head coach why I only want to talk to them. Again you can be nice to everyone and still make it clear I need to talk to the HC.

Peace

Exactly. I'll have a chat with an assistant anytime they ask a reasonable question at a reasonable time.

Agreed.

Rich is right, Billy. This is just goofy, given the obvious context. It's right up there with "coaches don't call timeouts, they request them" and getting hung up on "endline" vs "baseline."

Endline or baseline? I'm given to assume thems fightn words round these here parts.

No Standees ...
 

The context is very obvious, and the statements to not allow assistant coaches to stand and complain are very true, but simple statements like, "They are not allowed to stand" can lead to some basketball myths, and as many here on the Forum know, I hate such myths.

Also. What rule basis do we have for allowing head coaches more latitude to complain than assistant coaches? I get the no standing part, it's in the rules, but what about the complaining part?

The part where our association and state powers-that-be are constantly sending memos urging us to be good game managers. If you'd like to start the precedent of not allowing the coach more latitude because it's not in the rule book, I have a feeling you're not going to like your future schedules.

I understand that you're playing devil's advocate here, but going against common sense doesn't further conversation a whole lot.

Assistant coaches should not be standing to criticize officials. That is a T, indirect to the head coach. I would give it without hesitation. As for assistants standing to talk to a player during a dead ball or just jumping up to express emotion, it doesn't bother me. I'm not looking over there.

The rules clearly support us here, though. The assistant coach, like all team personnel, are the responibility of the head coach. Only the head coach may stand.

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Assistants do not get to yell at or be critical of officials. I will happily remind a head coach ONCE that his assistants are there to help him and the team not to comment to or on officiating. After that an indirect normally solves it.

I am a little more lenient on the standing issue. If they are all up and staying up coaching and yelling across the floor no. Depending on gym physical setting or nature of their activity I am willing to allow assistants to get up and walk up and down the bench to talk to their own players on the bench or to change positions to sit with a player to show them something. If there is space I ask they walk behind the bench, but if there isn't I will let them walk in front.

Standing to direct or get a kids attention momentarily isn't a big deal to me either. Just get back in your seat and make sure the head coach is the one up moving and doing.

Biggest problem I find myself and other officials in is in games (beyond when someone is just being a jack wagon), where either the head coach gets into a protracted conversation with 1 or more officials while the assistant(s) huddle up with some or all of the waiting players. OR vice versa where someone is willing to talk to an assistant about an issue and the HC is using that time as a temporary timeout.

N.e.v.e.r.

I think you would get more yes answers to the question, "do you allow your wife to have other men in your bed and have sex with them."