You realize that there is someone that works higher than me in level agrees with me on this topic right? You realize I was not the only person that was adament about my position, but you just choose not to either read their position or go after them. So either way it goes, I am not alone. Not only am I not alone on this, this is what is taught by many officials across the country. And so what you think the rule says or does not say, really does not matter at this point and at this stage of my personal career as no one but people on this site, in this particular conversation have ever questioned my position. I have even gone to partners and given them information and they changed it. The only thing that we discuss is that at the end of the day, it is your call to make based on what you saw. In both of these cases, I see a pass off. I have no reason to feel otherwise. And I see nothing in the rules that says that I am supposed to assume they were doing one thing when fouled. The rule only says that it is a judgment call for if the official feels a player is shooting or not. Well, they are telling us what they are doing when they either complete the motion or the do something else. I think I have seen enough basketball where players do all kinds of things. Fouls usually do not drastically change their motion or actions if they are shooting or if they are passing. Just like officials call fouls because the player "sells" the contact, well if you want me to award you a shot, then continue as if that was something you were doing all along. It is really not that difficult. But some people always make simple things difficult in officiating.

Peace

Actually, I'm sure you do ok officiating. You don't speak much, if at all, then. The problem is when you open your mouth. You've proven that here, over and over and over....