Jump ball violation: What have you here?
 

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Ignore the time wasting christmas music before and after.

Jumper caught the ball before the jump ball ended (by the ball hit the floor or a non-jumper).

And he vacated circle before jump ended legally. That dude moved fast!

By advancing to the 33 second mark of the video.

I think you only need to be in the circle until the ball has been touched by a jumper, not until the jump ball ends.

Q: Is that "your own half" of the circle, or the entire circle? It's unclear to me whether he left the entire circle.

Good question. Likely something that doesn't come up very often until a play like this one comes up. This one bears some book review for me now.

NFHS Rules

6-4 Art 7: Neither jumper shall:
A: touch the tossed ball before it reaches its highest point
B: leave the center circle before restraining circle until the ball has been touched
C: Catch the ball before the jump ends
D: Touch the ball more than twice

We are okay with A and D here obviously, and I think B too if it is referring to entire circle, and not the jumpers half of the circle.

So white violates here because he catches the ball before the jump ends (jump ends when is it touched by one of eight nonjumpers, an official, the floor, or basket)

So - if white player had let the ball bounce first, this would have been a perfectly legal play? Very interesting.

Not sure on the NCAA Ruling here.

I went back and watched again. I think he leaves circle illegally before the other jumper touches it.

In addition, he also caught it before jump ended. So I still maintain violation. Without the aid of this video, I don't know what any of us would do if this happened live. Looks like from video, they let the play stand and played on

Yes, it's definitely a violation for catching the ball. And, I'd hope we would all get it (even if it was a bit delayed because of the surprise factor).

But, I do have an interest in the "circle" question -- I did hear of a college game where both jumpers moved their feet (or a foot at least) into the other half of the circle as they prepared to jump (unclear whether this was before or after the toss). Should (by rule) this have been a violation?

I think for all these purposes (and certainly in the OP) the NCAA and FED rules are the same.

For the record, I don't think he left the circle before the other jumper touched it. Still a violation for the catch, though. Interesting point that if he lets it bounce, it's legal.

This was from a D1 C-USA game. Was it recent? If so, we officials are probably not the only ones watching this video. Beware: there's a conniving center out there somewhere who watched this video, thinks that was legal, and is ready to mess up your jump ball. Now you'll be ready for him!


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Preemptive Strike: Shut Up Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. ...
 

Jump balls are dinosaurs, and like dinosaurs, they should be extinct.

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The college rule says for each jump ball jumper have both feet inside half of circle further from its basket. That would be meaningless if once ball was tossed he was allowed to step on the other side of the circle.

I think they are talking about leaving their half of the circle. This jumper was not out of the other half of the circle before the jumper touches the ball but I have a violation for entering other half of circle.

Also, as others said. Jump ball was not over do he is not allowed to catch it.

I think that is only where they have to start. Once it is tossed, I don't think that requirement remains after it is tossed.

Years ago, didn't they have a smaller circle inside the 6-ft radius circle? Jumper had to keep one foot inside it or something like that? Anyway, eventually that smaller circle was eliminated. Why, and does that have any bearing on this conversation?


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