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Camron Rust Thu Dec 29, 2016 05:00am

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Originally Posted by crosscountry55 (Post 995811)
Years ago, didn't they have a smaller circle inside the 6-ft radius circle? Jumper had to keep one foot inside it or something like that? Anyway, eventually that smaller circle was eliminated. Why, and does that have any bearing on this conversation?

They had to start with one foot in the smaller circle. I'm guessing it was deemed to be unnecessary. I don't think it has any bearing on this discussion.

BillyMac Thu Dec 29, 2016 07:24am

And, Of Course, I'm Right And You're Wrong ...
 
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Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. (Post 995788)
What the heck did I do?

I know that we're both on opposite sides of the jump ball issue. I hate jump balls and love the alternating possession arrow, you love jump balls and hate the alternating possession arrow.

https://youtu.be/AGrLltH8pjE

bob jenkins Thu Dec 29, 2016 08:31am

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Originally Posted by BigCat (Post 995792)
The college rule says for each jump ball jumper have both feet inside half of circle further from its basket. That would be meaningless if once ball was tossed he was allowed to step on the other side of the circle.

That's correct, and it also says that the restrictions end when the ball touches a non-jumper (etc.). However, there's no penalty for the specific parts of Rule 6.

if you go to rule 9 (violations) you see that it's only a violation to "leave the center circle before the ball has been touched..."

So, there's somewhat of a conflict between rule 9 and rule 6.

Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. Thu Dec 29, 2016 10:32am

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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 995814)
I know that we're both on opposite sides of the jump ball issue. I hate jump balls and love the alternating possession arrow, you love jump balls and hate the alternating possession arrow.

https://youtu.be/AGrLltH8pjE


BUT!! I have revised my position on AP. I still would do away with it but I have come to the conclusion that the REAL abomination upon the game is that stupid arc in the paint and the rule that goes with it. But that is a discussion for another time.

Raymond Thu Dec 29, 2016 11:16am

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Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. (Post 995820)
BUT!! I have revised my position on AP. I still would do away with it but I have come to the conclusion that the REAL abomination upon the game is that stupid arc in the paint and the rule that goes with it. But that is a discussion for another time.

And should be directed at college coaches, they are the ones who want that rule.

Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. Thu Dec 29, 2016 11:19am

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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 995823)
And should be directed at college coaches, they are the ones who want that rule.


BNR:

I know. Anyone who takes the time to search my posts regarding this issue knows my position on this subject. But I would rather celebrate the 125th Birthday of Basketball on this date.

MTD, Sr.

Terrapins Fan Thu Dec 29, 2016 11:29am

I must be Old....I am, I like the jump ball. I have a good toss the majority of the time....

BillyMac Thu Dec 29, 2016 04:31pm

For One Jump Ball A Game Is It Worth Memorizing The Rules And Restrictions ???
 
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Originally Posted by Terrapins Fan (Post 995826)
I must be Old....I am, I like the jump ball. I have a good toss the majority of the time....

But do you know all the jump ball rules and restrictions like we did back in the olden days when we had several jump balls every game, at three different spots, with guards doing some of the jumping? Some of the guys I work with today don't even know that a non-jumper on the circle can leave the circle at any time, before the toss, after the toss, before the tip, or after the tip.

I'd really like to give the ball to the visitors to start the game, and set the alternating possession arrow for the home team. No more jump balls.


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