Tennessee State @ Duke play (Video)
 

If you blink, you might miss it.

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Peace

Yes there is contact. It that a good call? I'll pass on answering.

I can't get videos to play anymore from your posts rut. Stupid technology.

I was going to ask and it might be a diff thread starter, but did anyone else see Les Jones emphatically pointing at shot clock when it was under 10? I can't imagine this is an approved mechanic......

No, that was not a good call. C did not have a good look at it and if there was contact it was very very minor. I think he anticipated the call.

I had to go to web view on the app to get vid to load up. Weird.

This to me was a very good call. He clips his left leg and if you see the original angle, he falls because of this. You have to protect the shooter in this case and it does not take much. The call was correct and why I slowed it down. I only happen to hear what the commentator said which caught my eye for the play.

Peace

Interesting play. Allen has him beat completely. I cant tell if blue hits allens left leg or allen curls his left leg back and in to hit blue. Left leg usually doesnt curl back in like that. Usually just stays in same place.

Looking at it again it looks like blue does keep moving and hits allen's leg as it moves in. I agree it looks like a good call. And i agree, when a player is in the air it doesnt take much contact to cause a problem.

He hits his foot.

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The defender clips the airborne shooter's foot. Great call by an official I'm not particularly fond of.

Can we have some context?

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Contact, but not a foul.
I watched some of this game and it was definitely a clinic on calling the game under the freedom of movement POE.
I'd say this call fit well with how this particular game was being officiated tonight. However, this seems like marginal contact IMO.

I doubt any official in the world would be good enough to decide that Allen curled his foot back to create the contact and no-call it because of that.

Good call.

I have seen this play several times over my career. You see a defender either stick out their hip or they catch an airborne shooter on the leg. Heck, from his point of view this was likely very easy to see. It is not that hard to see. The angle we had was not great. And the shooter falls on his behind.

Also another key, the player did not complain at all. He knew he hit him on some level and that is why he fell to the floor.

Peace

It looked to me that Jones was pointing several times toward the shot clock every time it would go under 10 seconds. Doing it very emphatically. Was wondering if that was a mechanic similar to a last second shot in HS. Depends on partner but it's normally a point toward sky under one min. Just don't remember anyone doing it for shot clock. I don't know if players reacted to it but seems to me he would be drawing their attention to it and it might help a team in avoiding a violation.

The only time I ever reference the shot clock is after an out-of-bounds violation or something that interrupts play without a reset. We remind me each other that there is only so much time left on the shot clock.

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This was during live ball and animated. Like: point, drop arm, point, drop arm, point, etc. didn't look like crew communication at all. Not a big deal but it drew my attention for sure

If you have an approximate timestamp from the game I can look it up and see what I can discern.

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I don't have it. Was chasing little ones while watching. No worries.

This. And This. Excellent points, Rut.

C had a GREAT angle to see the shooter's foot unnaturally bounce back from whence it came.

And if the defender doesn't complain ...

Given what we already knew and what was further revealed about Allen's propensity to have his feet find other player's legs, does this change anyone's opinion on of the call?

No. Why would it? I never even considered this call outside of the action of the play. I could not care less who the player was involved.

Peace

Easy foul on the defense. Slot/center official had a good look at the play.

This is a normal basketball play by the offensive player plain and simple. To no call (or even call an offensive foul when the situation warrants it) you're gonna want something that's way more overt.

When i first looked at it here i thought maybe Allen curled his foot back a bit into defender to draw contact. And i thought that because of who he is...

Curling the foot you jump off of behind you isnt normal. That leg foot usually stays in same spot. I looked at it again and he didnt move the foot in that much. I would have had a foul live and i have a foul still now but the thought entered my mind that there was a little more to it than a defender hitting him.

I think that a player in that position is not usually going to kick out their leg as they are a little more vulnerable than they would be in other situations. But I do get your point on some level.

Also the defender was not in a legal position either. So any contact he would be mostly responsible for if it took place.

Peace

I agree and certainly wouldnt try to curl my foot behind me in air. Causes all kinds of balance issues etc. He didnt do it as much as i originally thought.
And yes, i have a foul regardless. Defender didnt need to put himself in that position.