I've seen it - but never seen it called
 

Shooter gets a pass in the corner for a 3 point try. He takes a quick baby hop before jumping into his shot - I think that is a travel by rule - do you call that?

I've called it a few times.

I've called it, several times. It does get missed a lot though. The times I've called it, a defensive player was running at the shooter, and the shooter does it do avoid the defensive player to get a clean look.

I have also called is several times if it is obvious. I try not to nitpick this, but often it is very obvious and I even called in Saturday in my game. Again much of this is judgment.

Peace

Like Rut, I call it when it's obvious and leave it alone when it's not. Sometimes it's quite obviously a legal jump stop, so you can't call it even if you just called it on the other team who did it wrong.

Coaches here takes notice of it and complain when it is not called, especially when used to create space from the defender.

Not always a travel if not done correctly. Lower level games is nearly always a travel.

If it creates an advantage hoping away from the defense its a travel?

If they hop giving the defense more time to defend it then its not a travel?

And its the same hop. No dribble picking up the pivot and putting it down.

Who said this?

Since when does advantage/disadvantage matter on violations?

One Example (They're Aren't Many) ...
 

Ten second free throw count?

Three second violations certainly are, especially by officials I want to work with.

You're right. That was not a completely accurate statement on my part.

I believe that this is a point of emphasis for NCAAM this season.

That could just as easily be categorized under intent and purpose of the rule without directly considering advantage/disadvantage in the traditional sense even though the rule really is addressing a specific advantage (tall players camping at the basket).

Advantage/disadvantage as espoused in the Owald Tower Philosophy applies to contact and not violations.

Therefore, a travel is a travel is a travel.

MTD, Sr.

I try to make this call only when I'm certain that the player has controlled the ball, with both feet on the floor, and then re-positions both feet. I give a benefit of doubt regarding whether the player has control of the ball.

And I give a benefit of the doubt as to whether it's a jump stop (catch with one foot on the floor, hop off it and land on two feet simultaneously).

You've just put words in peoples mouths... no one said this at all.

We may recall the father who posted the video of his daughter, who made a jumpstop to the rear, and the father said that it was called a travel. A clean jumpstop can catch an anxious official by surprise.

Those statements end with a "?'.

I do love however how quickly folks appear defensive about a super grey area in refereeing.

Clearing we pointed out a D1 guy allows a coach on the court touching his players and its clearly a foul and yet it is not called.

Where I am from bunny hops are rarely called. It should appear to be the easiest call in the world.

We clearly let 3 seconds go or travels go with no defense within 50 feet.

Basketball is hard because there is so much judgement and contact and things that can be done with a dribble, etc.

I have a pretty good idea when I am going to call a bunny hop and when I will not. I just look for gems from you vets as to what might alter my grey area this way or that way.

Jumping down my throat for a question.. well that doesnt bother me any more.

Carry on!

Gem from a vet as to what to whistle: How long do you want the game to take? :D

Called it quite a few times. See it more in girls games. Seeing it more and more.

If it's obvious I call it. Just another annoying thing the kids have learned and are doing these days.

Curious if others see it this way: It seems to me that it used to be that the jump shooter got no benefit of the doubt on this, and now the shooter gets significant benefit of the doubt.

Put otherwise, it seems to me that what is permitted by the jump shooter in my son's games would have been called a travel
back when I played.

The Intent And Purpose Of The Rules ...
 

True, but the NFHS Intent And Purpose Of The Rules says nothing about being limited to fouls, in fact it doesn't mention either fouls, or violations, specifically.

THE INTENT AND PURPOSE OF THE RULES
The restrictions which the rules place upon the players are intended to create a
balance of play; to provide equal opportunity between the offense and the
defense; to provide equal opportunity between the small player and tall player; to
provide reasonable safety and protection; to create an atmosphere of sporting
behavior and fair play; and to emphasize cleverness and skill without unduly
limiting freedom of action of individual or team play on either offense or defense.
Therefore, it is important to know the intent and purpose of a rule so that it may
be intelligently applied in each play situation. A player or a team should not be
permitted an advantage which is not intended by a rule. Neither should play be
permitted to develop which may lead to placing a player at a disadvantage not
intended by a rule.
Agree. Agree. Agree.