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BillyMac Mon Oct 17, 2016 04:37pm

Simple Question For You College Guys ...
 
Closely guarded.

NCAA men: Six feet or three feet?

NCAA women: Six feet or three feet?

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swkansasref33 Mon Oct 17, 2016 04:47pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 991975)
Closely guarded.

NCAA men: Six feet or three feet?

NCAA women: Six feet or three feet?

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NCAA Women is 6' from the forward foot of the defender to forward foot of ball handler, in the front court only. 9.14.1

Raymond Mon Oct 17, 2016 06:33pm

6 ft, holding the ball, frontcourt...MEN's

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Raymond Mon Oct 17, 2016 06:34pm

Why do you ask?

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bob jenkins Tue Oct 18, 2016 07:14am

Note that it was 3' for a few years in NCAAW.

Dad Tue Oct 18, 2016 01:47pm

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Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 992003)
Note that it was 3' for a few years in NCAAW.

This is the root of most issues. Especially when someone worked one NCAA-w that one time.

Raymond Tue Oct 18, 2016 03:13pm

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Originally Posted by Dad (Post 992029)
This is the root of most issues. Especially when someone worked one NCAA-w that one time.

The root of most issues is officials working multiple rule sets, but not taking the time to learn rule sets they work.

JRutledge Tue Oct 18, 2016 03:38pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dad (Post 992029)
This is the root of most issues. Especially when someone worked one NCAA-w that one time.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 992040)
The root of most issues is officials working multiple rule sets, but not taking the time to learn rule sets they work.

There were officials that did not call it properly or use the right distance regardless of what they had done. HS officials still to this day do not count properly in many cases when a defender is within 6 feet. I do not see the other codes as being the problem. Having bad judgment is the problem as I see it.

Peace

BillyMac Tue Oct 18, 2016 05:30pm

Correction Needed ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 991982)
Why do you ask?

Private prep schools in Connecticut use NCAA/NFHS hybrid rules. Right now, our prep school guidelines state that closely guarded in a girls game is three feet. I'm going to ask our state interpreter to change three feet to six feet for prep school girls games.

Mark Padgett Tue Oct 18, 2016 07:44pm

When I worked games, I used closely guarded was one foot with all hot moms. ;)

Raymond Wed Oct 19, 2016 07:35am

Quote:

Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 992050)
Private prep schools in Connecticut use NCAA/NFHS hybrid rules. Right now, our prep school guidelines state that closely guarded in a girls game is three feet. I'm going to ask our state interpreter to change three feet to six feet for prep school girls games.

If they goal is to use a mix of NCAA/NFHS, the 3' standard applies to neither.

BillyMac Wed Oct 19, 2016 04:02pm

Confirmation ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 992070)
If the goal is to use a mix of NCAA/NFHS, the 3' standard applies to neither.

Which is exactly what I wanted to confirm.

Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. Wed Oct 19, 2016 08:09pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett (Post 992057)
When I worked games, I used closely guarded was one foot with all hot moms. ;)


Mark:

Check your PMs.

MTD, Sr.

Dad Thu Oct 20, 2016 11:11am

Quote:

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 992040)
The root of most issues is officials working multiple rule sets, but not taking the time to learn rule sets they work.

Basically what I meant in a roundabout way. Only two times I've run into it were officials who had worked a game or two in NCAAw and then wanted to apply it elsewhere.

bballref3966 Thu Oct 20, 2016 11:48am

At a tournament this past summer played under high school rules with a bunch of college officials, I was the only one on the crew counting during a dribble. Until one of the coaches yelled "Where's the count????" on a dribble outside my area.


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