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mattmets Mon Oct 17, 2016 12:02pm

Getting into Basketball
 
My area (like most) has a shortage of basketball officials. I've been thinking for a while about getting into it as a way to stay in shape between baseball seasons, but have never worked basketball. Question for the esteemed vets on this board- what would I need to get started? (Practically speaking here- uniform, other gear, etc.) I've worked baseball for about 12 years, but I don't think any of that equipment will flow into basketball at all.

Any help would be much appreciated!

bob jenkins Mon Oct 17, 2016 12:50pm

Black pants, striped shirt, whistle, black socks, black shoes.

Find a local association to ask about training / registration requirements (the way local associations work varies greatly by area).

Best: Contact one of your umpire buddies who also does basketball and ask him to walk you through it.

JRutledge Mon Oct 17, 2016 12:53pm

You will be several legs up on a brand new official because of your officiating background, but you must understand that basketball has a very different set of expectations and different set of standards as to how you interact in the game.

That being said, I agree with everything Bob said. Someone that works baseball likely works basketball and can help you through that situation.

Good Luck.

Peace

mattmets Mon Oct 17, 2016 12:55pm

Much appreciated. I know the game is different but I'll also have a regular partner who also works baseball, so hopefully we'd be able to grow into it together.

I also have an email in to my assigner to learn more about basketball in these parts. Thanks again!

jTheUmp Mon Oct 17, 2016 02:00pm

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Originally Posted by mattmets (Post 991954)
Much appreciated. I know the game is different but I'll also have a regular partner who also works baseball, so hopefully we'd be able to grow into it together.

So your plan is to start working basketball with another baseball-umpire-just-getting-into-basketball?

I'd reconsider that plan if I were you... after all, would you recommend a rookie baseball umpire only work with another rookie umpire?

See if your assigner can get you hooked up with some more veteran basketball officials, at least for the bulk of your first season.

RefsNCoaches Mon Oct 17, 2016 02:27pm

I agree with JRut...A buddy of mine had been a long time varsity baseball umpire...worked state a few times in his many years. He asked me about hoops and aside from the mechanics that a first year needs to work on, his moxie on the floor was great. I think he was mid 40s when he started hoops and he's now doing football also...

Aside from what the others have said...maybe see if you can go with a hoops ref to do an observation and join them in the officials room prior to game and during halftime just to see what the whole show is about.

Kansas Ref Tue Oct 18, 2016 04:36pm

Officiating is not really a good way to "get into shape". Folks say to me all the time, "hey you referee basketball you must get a good workout". I always reply to them that "Officiating games is not a work out--it is 'work' ".
Moving around in a limited area and then sprinting to a new spot, closely observing and analyzing the action---then standing or moving around only slightly is not really a work out.

Adam Tue Oct 18, 2016 05:19pm

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Originally Posted by Kansas Ref (Post 992045)
Officiating is not really a good way to "get into shape". Folks say to me all the time, "hey you referee basketball you must get a good workout". I always reply to them that "Officiating games is not a work out--it is 'work' ".
Moving around in a limited area and then sprinting to a new spot, closely observing and analyzing the action---then standing or moving around only slightly is not really a work out.

I agree with your first sentence. If one is not already in shape as the season starts, officiating is going to be difficult.

It is a work out, though. It's a decent interval work out. But the better shape you're in to start with, the less of a work out it will seem.

grunewar Wed Oct 19, 2016 04:06am

Just curious.....
 
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Originally Posted by mattmets (Post 991947)
My area (like most) has a shortage of basketball officials.

Not to steal the thread, but, is this true in "most areas?" Certainly not true here in N VA.

BillyMac Wed Oct 19, 2016 06:12am

Doubling Up Is Frowned Upon ...
 
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Originally Posted by grunewar (Post 992067)
Not to steal the thread, but, is this true in "most areas?"

Here in my little corner of Connecticut, busy Fridays (middle school, high school freshman, high school junior varsity, high school varsity) are sometimes difficult to cover.

AremRed Wed Oct 19, 2016 06:57am

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Originally Posted by jTheUmp (Post 991956)
So your plan is to start working basketball with another baseball-umpire-just-getting-into-basketball?

I'd reconsider that plan if I were you... after all, would you recommend a rookie baseball umpire only work with another rookie umpire?

See if your assigner can get you hooked up with some more veteran basketball officials, at least for the bulk of your first season.

This.

JRutledge Wed Oct 19, 2016 07:53am

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Originally Posted by Adam (Post 992049)
I agree with your first sentence. If one is not already in shape as the season starts, officiating is going to be difficult.

It is a work out, though. It's a decent interval work out. But the better shape you're in to start with, the less of a work out it will seem.

Not all games are real games or single games, so if you run all out like you are supposed to for a multiple game situation, you might get a better workout than most things you can do outside of running multiple miles a day. For example if I work 4 two person games during the summer and I run during the game like I would do in a single game, I am probably going to be in better shape than I need to be for games during the season.

Peace

so cal lurker Wed Oct 19, 2016 10:16am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kansas Ref (Post 992045)
Officiating is not really a good way to "get into shape". Folks say to me all the time, "hey you referee basketball you must get a good workout". I always reply to them that "Officiating games is not a work out--it is 'work' ".
Moving around in a limited area and then sprinting to a new spot, closely observing and analyzing the action---then standing or moving around only slightly is not really a work out.

If you want a good workout while you ref, switch to soccer.:eek:

johnny d Wed Oct 19, 2016 12:19pm

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Originally Posted by so cal lurker (Post 992077)
If you want a good workout while you ref, switch to soccer.:eek:

yeah those sideline officials really get a good workout :D

Amesman Wed Oct 19, 2016 12:43pm

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Originally Posted by johnny d (Post 992079)
yeah those sideline officials really get a good workout :D

What next? Unfairly picking on volleyball officials for being able to work an entire match with untied shoes —or no shoes at all?! You are indeed harsh, young man.


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