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OfficialBFish Fri Apr 29, 2016 12:57pm

Lifting up player
 
Saw a video the other day, inbound play on the end line, player A1 lifts up A2 as A2 catches the inbound pass way above everyone else and puts the ball in the basket. Having trouble finding a case book play on this for NFHS. Is there one and if so what's the penalty?

OrStBballRef Fri Apr 29, 2016 01:23pm

Rule 10.6.E 'Climbing on or lifting a teammate to secure greater height'

Penalty is a technical foul. Line up and shoot your FTs

LRZ Fri Apr 29, 2016 01:47pm

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Originally Posted by OrStBballRef (Post 986896)
Rule 10.6.E 'Climbing on or lifting a teammate to secure greater height'

Penalty is a technical foul. Line up and shoot your FTs

In the unlikely event that this ever occurs in one of my games, on whom would I assess the T? The rule forbids both "lifting" and "climbing," but a player can't "climb on" unless a teammate "lifts" and vice versa. Penalizing both players for the same act seems disproportionate.

deecee Fri Apr 29, 2016 03:22pm

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Originally Posted by LRZ (Post 986900)
In the unlikely event that this ever occurs in one of my games, on whom would I assess the T? The rule forbids both "lifting" and "climbing," but a player can't "climb on" unless a teammate "lifts" and vice versa. Penalizing both players for the same act seems disproportionate.

What?????? climbing on and lifting are 2 separate acts. One act player 1 LIFTS player 2. The other act player 1 CLIMBS ON player 2.

diehardmason Fri Apr 29, 2016 04:15pm

I'm sure some tried define the wording to circumvent the rule. So add both words and make the ruling inclusive.


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Mark Padgett Fri Apr 29, 2016 04:24pm

What would your call be if A1 lifts A2 up and tosses him into the air then A2 catches the inbound pass while in the air and comes down with the ball and himself through the hoop? NF rules :rolleyes:

BillyMac Fri Apr 29, 2016 04:26pm

To Secure Greater Height ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by LRZ (Post 986900)
In the unlikely event that this ever occurs in one of my games, on whom would I assess the T? The rule forbids both "lifting" and "climbing," but a player can't "climb on" unless a teammate "lifts" and vice versa. Penalizing both players for the same act seems disproportionate.

I can see LRZ's point, but climbing can be separated from lifting. One can climb a tree without the tree doing any lifting. A jack can lift a car without the car doing any climbing.

If a player folds his fingers together and gives a "boost" to his teammate, then he is charged with the technical foul for lifting. If a player climbs up onto the shoulders of a teammate, then the climber gets charged with the technical foul.

If they're both involved, charge the technical foul to the player that secured the greatest height.

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BillyMac Fri Apr 29, 2016 04:42pm

No Pads, No Helmet ...
 
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Originally Posted by Mark Padgett (Post 986910)
What would your call be if A1 lifts A2 up and tosses him into the air then A2 catches the inbound pass while in the air and comes down with the ball ...

Allowed in rugby:

Rugby Player Throwing Ball Into Play Players Lifting Players Into Air To Catch Ball Scrummaging Stock Footage Video | Getty Images

Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. Fri Apr 29, 2016 09:49pm

Thread from November 2001.
 
Start with Post #6 of the following thread:

https://forum.officiating.com/basket...one-night.html

MTD, Sr.

RefCT Fri Apr 29, 2016 10:24pm

Lifting up player
 
Not sure if OP is referring to this - http://deadspin.com/sadly-youre-not-...yer-1773359293. It was on Deadspin Wed. Saw it, saw it was missed and clear and didn't really think to post it on here because didn't think there was much to discuss.

League even sent out a memo saying the refs booted the call and should have waved the basket and assessed a T.


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