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ZonaZebra Mon Apr 04, 2016 10:55pm

Speaking of Bob Scofield, I noticed he was the alternate on Sunday.

Camron Rust Tue Apr 05, 2016 12:00am

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Originally Posted by Referee24.7 (Post 985833)
Not to segway on this thread....

How do you segway on a thread???

Am I missing something or did he mean segue?

BillyMac Tue Apr 05, 2016 06:05am

Smooth Transition ...
 
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Originally Posted by Camron Rust (Post 985848)
How do you segway on a thread???

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...egwaygreen.jpg

Rich Tue Apr 05, 2016 08:50am

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Originally Posted by Referee24.7 (Post 985833)
Not to segway on this thread, but I'm sure this has been discussed here before, and I'm wondering why any of you think we will get over the "gender" card in the striped world and there will come a day when a woman will be able to work mens' ball on a regular basis and have an opportunity to maybe someday work the tournament, and maybe even a Final Four?

I don't think there's as much of a "gender card" as many think, especially now that there are females working in the NBA and NFL.

But a female official with any talent at all will be working a full college schedule in less than 5 years and will be working at the D1 level in less than 10 (or even earlier). That rarely happens on the men's side. Why would a female official make that choice? Especially when there's a huge thumb on the scale at every level for females in the women's game....

Rich Tue Apr 05, 2016 08:51am

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Originally Posted by Camron Rust (Post 985848)
How do you segway on a thread???

Am I missing something or did he mean segue?

So, random thought -- were Americans always this bad at spelling or are we just noticing it more now that everyone's online?

Altor Tue Apr 05, 2016 09:04am

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Originally Posted by Rich (Post 985857)
So, random thought -- were Americans always this bad at spelling or are we just noticing it more now that everyone's online?

This wasn't a misspelling, it was a misused word. People have been misusing words in their conversations forever. When you misuse a word on an Internet board like this, 100 people see it. When you misuse it in a conversation, only a few people may notice.

Rich Tue Apr 05, 2016 09:06am

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Originally Posted by Altor (Post 985858)
This wasn't a misspelling, it was a misused word. People have been misusing words in their conversations forever. When you misuse a word on an Internet board like this, 100 people see it. When you misuse it in a conversation, only a few people may notice.

Tomato, to-mah-to. ;)

bob jenkins Tue Apr 05, 2016 09:19am

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Originally Posted by Altor (Post 985858)
This wasn't a misspelling, it was a misused word. People have been misusing words in their conversations forever. When you misuse a word on an Internet board like this, 100 people see it. When you misuse it in a conversation, only a few people may notice.

And if a word is a homonym (or close), you can't tell during oral conversation if a person used an incorrect word or not. "Not to Segway..." and "Not to segue..." would sound the same.

Altor Tue Apr 05, 2016 09:52am

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Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 985862)
And if a word is a homonym (or close), you can't tell during oral conversation if a person used an incorrect word or not. "Not to Segway..." and "Not to segue..." would sound the same.

See...and I would have pronounced it "seg". On the Internet nobody knows I am wrong. In a conversation, people would be wondering what the junk I'm talking about.

Camron Rust Tue Apr 05, 2016 11:21am

Ok, so I'm not missing some new slang. Whew.

bballref3966 Tue Apr 05, 2016 07:48pm

All-female crew in the final

Dee Kantner
Lisa Jones
Beverly Roberts

AremRed Tue Apr 05, 2016 08:46pm

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Originally Posted by bballref3966 (Post 985912)
All-female crew in the final

I could have told you that, ain't no dudes getting the final anymore.

Rich Tue Apr 05, 2016 09:06pm

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Originally Posted by AremRed (Post 985915)
I could have told you that, ain't no dudes getting the final anymore.

You mean....since last year? :confused:

Kansas Ref Wed Apr 06, 2016 09:58am

Suprisesd by that
 
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Originally Posted by bballref3966 (Post 985912)
All-female crew in the final

Dee Kantner
Lisa Jones
Beverly Roberts

*I was surprised that the crew was entirely female. Not even one male ref. Which prompted me to wonder--since I had recently been writing about "age, racial, and gender bias" in officiating--why was a male ref not on there?

I have to be very cautious about drawing conclusions because it has been pointed out to me that my analysis of "age, gender, racial bias in the officiating industry" is too "simplistic". Was the evaluative rating of the male refs too low? Was there not a male ref willing to request the game? Were these the three highest rated refs available--which just by sheer probability just happened to be all "female"?
If I were to postulate why there were no male refs in that game, then the most parsimonious explanation would simply be: "the assignor only wanted to use only female refs".

Rob1968 Wed Apr 06, 2016 10:11am

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Originally Posted by Kansas Ref (Post 985934)
*I was surprised that the crew was entirely female. Not even one male ref. Which prompted me to wonder--since I had recently been writing about "age, racial, and gender bias" in officiating--why was a male ref not on there?

I have to be very cautious about drawing conclusions because it has been pointed out to me that my analysis of "age, gender, racial bias in the officiating industry" is too "simplistic". Was the evaluative rating of the male refs too low? Was there not a male ref willing to request the game? Were these the three highest rated refs available--which just by sheer probability just happened to be all "female"?
If I were to postulate why there were no male refs in that game, then the most parsimonious explanation would simply be: "the assignor only wanted to use only female refs".

The pool of officials for the later portions of the tournament is small. One part of the criteria for those assignments is performance in post season and tournament games.
"...a male ref requesting the game..." doesn't happen. (Perhaps blue font would've been appropriate with your statement?)
The goal, on the Women's side, has always been to eventually fill Women's game assignments with women officials.


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