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CallMeMrRef Thu Mar 31, 2016 07:56am

My last attempt - thankfully you will say
 
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Originally Posted by jpgc99 (Post 985643)
1) This is in the mechanics manual as others have pointed out. The mechanics manual tells us exactly what to do. If it is a block because the player is in the restricted area, point. This means you only point if it is a block because of the RA. The second point in the mechanics manual says, if it is judged a block solely due to the contact (regardless of location on the floor), you do not point.

Exactly what I am saying. I am going to put this in simple terms. Let's just take the bang bang play in the RA. I know it is in the RA and the tape will show it is in the RA - no question it is in the RA. - no partners will have to come in - they may actually reinforce that the play was in the RA. When I make the block call, due to it being in the RA, and point to the RA, I am saying, this play is a block because of where it happened. It does not indicate whether I thought it would have been a block or charge without the RA. There is no judgment to be questioned on the B/C, just on the location of the play. The coach then knows why this call is a block when the last call down the court was a charge on similar contact. It all gets back to communication - everybody knows what was called and why.

You all are saying that I can only point to the RA if I had made the decision it was a PC. I don't read it that way and will point to the RA in this situation unless my supervisors tell me otherwise.

If that is calculus, so be it.

deecee Thu Mar 31, 2016 08:05am

You totally don't understand the purpose of the RA.

Raymond Thu Mar 31, 2016 08:32am

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Originally Posted by CallMeMrRef (Post 985652)
Exactly what I am saying. I am going to put this in simple terms. Let's just take the bang bang play in the RA. I know it is in the RA and the tape will show it is in the RA - no question it is in the RA. - no partners will have to come in - they may actually reinforce that the play was in the RA. When I make the block call, due to it being in the RA, and point to the RA, I am saying, this play is a block because of where it happened. It does not indicate whether I thought it would have been a block or charge without the RA. There is no judgment to be questioned on the B/C, just on the location of the play. The coach then knows why this call is a block when the last call down the court was a charge on similar contact. It all gets back to communication - everybody knows what was called and why.

You all are saying that I can only point to the RA if I had made the decision it was a PC. I don't read it that way and will point to the RA in this situation unless my supervisors tell me otherwise.

If that is calculus, so be it.

You yourself posted the CCA manual verbiage that told you that if you point to the RA the play would have been an offensive foul minus the restricted area Arc. How come you aren't responding to that? I can only suppose that you are either a troll, coach, or fan who is nowhere near close to officiating in college basketball.

You would be the kind of official who ruins camp for everybody else. There is no way in hell any college supervisor would hire somebody with this type of mentality so quit pretending you're a college official.

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dahoopref Thu Mar 31, 2016 10:29am

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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 985654)
You yourself posted the CCA manual verbiage that told you that if you point to the RA the play would have been an offensive foul minus the restricted area Arc. How come you aren't responding to that? I can only suppose that you are either a troll, coach, or fan who is nowhere near close to officiating in college basketball.

You would be the kind of official who ruins camp for everybody else. There is no way in hell any college supervisor would hire somebody with this type of mentality so quit pretending you're a college official.

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Well, that day has finally arrived....:D ;)

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Adam Thu Mar 31, 2016 03:09pm

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Originally Posted by CallMeMrRef (Post 985652)
You all are saying that I can only point to the RA if I had made the decision it was a PC. I don't read it that way and will point to the RA in this situation unless my supervisors tell me otherwise.

Ok, we're shutting this down now.

They're all saying it because that's what a plain reading of the rule you quoted says.

This thread is closed.


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