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Originally Posted by BryanV21 (Post 983444)

Like I said, I give the block signal and I haven't been corrected. And I can't say where I got that from. My ass? Idk

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With the NCAA-M rules, if you use anything else other than the "team control" mechanic, you are open to interpretation if the offended team could shoot bonus FTs. A "push" can occur during a rebound (when there is no team control), thus bonus FTs can be shot. A foul by the offensive team can either be in team control or not team control. There is no "illegal screen" mechanic in the NCAA-M manual.

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Originally Posted by Camron Rust (Post 983310)

1. Regardless of what the call should be, the big problem is the mechanics. With a play at the basket, the closest official was still above the top of the key. The new lead was behind 7 players at the time of the shot. The video didn't show enough before the transition to know what went wrong. Did he miss a rotation? Did he just react too slowly to the turnover? Did he get too low as Trail before the turnover? He also looked to be hobbled a bit in transition....was he hurt an unable to keep up?

The C's position wasn't great either but not horrible. The new trail also came in with a whistle from at least 60 ft. away....not sure that was needed given the C already had a whistle.

2. Foul, #11, over the top of the shooter, not in his own space and hits the shooter's elbow.
3. Correct...screener kept moving farther and farther out through contact.
4. Defender had LGP, contact was the responsibility of the dribbler. Good call.
5. It was even 6 or 7 by the time of the whistle.

My thoughts exactly. I thought it (#1) was the right call, with the defender throwing a shoulder to the side to catch the shooter.

All the calls were correct, IMO, but I still can't see why the T came flying in with his fist up. It's an odd play for three whistles.

Team Control signals ...

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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 983440)

In my state they want us to give the type of foul after the TC signal.

Same here, for example, team control punch followed by hands on hips block for an illegal screen.

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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 983461)

Same here, for example, team control punch followed by hands on hips block for an illegal screen.

In the State Finals the head official tells the officials that no one does this right and if they do not do it right in the games (at the State Finals), they owe him a beer. Well I bought 3. :D

I never do it right and usually forget the foul signal but always go with the TC signal.

Peace

You Never Know Who Observing ...

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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 983469)

I never do it right and usually forget the foul signal but always go with the TC signal.

I will often forget to give the "illegal screen block" signal as part of the preliminary signal at the site of the foul, just giving the team control punch, but I'm pretty good at remembering to give both signals as I report to the table, verbally stating "illegal screen" as I give the blocking signal. The signal for the type of foul (push, hold, block, etc.), is always important, but the most important signal is the team control punch because it tells everybody, including your partner, that we're not shooting free throws.

(I'm also one of those "fist" on hips blocking foul guys as the preliminary signal but will usually come to my senses and give the correct "hands" on hips signal when reporting to the table.)