Last Game of the Season
 

Last night was my last game of the season, the Florida 4A State Final. After taking 16 years off from officiating, it was very rewarding to return to State after only two seasons back. This forum has been a valuable resource for me. I want to express my gratitude to the forum members for helping me to relearn much of what I had long forgotten.

In case anyone is interested in viewing a portion of the first quarter, here is the video. Constructive comments and critique are welcomed.

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Congrats on the finish to your season! :)

I don't know which official you are. Your crew must have done a good pregame. After the PC foul call (CC - IMO) at the end of the clip, the calling official went right to the table to report and started the "long" switch. :)

Agreed -- congrats on the strong finish.

Two observations: Seemed like a lot of empty seats for a state final, at least near the court. Couldn't see how big the arena was. Just seems curious.

And was that last call at the end of the clip a PC or TC? :rolleyes:

Couple observations.....

I noticed twice on the far end that the lead ran across the paint twice to get ball side. If you close down properly to lane line you wont have to run across the paint like the crew did.....

I noticed that the white official on the end closer to guy with video camera as lead rotated as a kid was launching a three.... if you are L and a kid catches a
ball outside of arc wide open,the shot is going up. You are rotating as he is in act of shooting. This throws off court coverage for T and C....

Finally....the lead has a play on this end where the kid rides out the taller rebounder. Hold your whistle a second longer and that play becomes a try ( 2 ft throws ) as the big gets the rebound. Yes you have a foul but if the big can play through the initial ride out give him a shooting foul.....

Why would you not want to go ball side as lead...?

Rotating is fine, just pre-game if you're going to finish or not on a shot. I've never been on a crew that finishes. Just go back if it keeps the crew in good position.

Why are you penalizing defense giving phantom FTs?

Where did he say he doesn't want to go ball side?

Everyone I've ever heard has said if a shot is imminent, hold off a second. This is how rotations get missed. Not a huge deal, but easily avoided sometimes.

I watched the whole game. Overall, nice job. Congrats on getting to Lakeland. BTW...my association initially was assigned to that game. One of the teams in that final was from our area, so they were re-assigned...not sure which game they ended up on.

I noticed twice on the far end that the lead ran across the paint twice to get ball side. If you close down properly to lane line you wont have to run across the paint like the crew did.....

Didn't fully understand what this meant.

They were reassigned to the 3A game, which is the game we were originally assigned.

You never rotate from a wide angle position -- you only rotate from a close down position. If you mirror the ball properly, this is never an issue.

Oh, thanks!

I have my final game of the interscholastic season later this afternoon--its a district playoff game-- and I'm going out with a "bang".

Disagree. The foul is clearly on the rebound and IMO is not one you can let go and see what happens.

Sure you can.....I agree it is a foul but if the big can get the rebound as he is getting ridden out, then give him a shooting foul. If he doesn't get the rebound because he is pushed out, then pop your whistle. This is why the so the NBA officials are SO far ahead of everybody....at the hs and lower college levels everybody wants that foul as soon as the defender starts to ride him out....let play begin develop and finish !!!!!

Griblets:

Do you know Torch from Merritt Island, FL?

MTD, Sr.

I respectfully disagree with this mentality. I want to go ball side if the clues are present, i.e. there's a post matchup present or anticipated, or if a wing/corner play is setting up opposite me. Short of that, the crew is better off moving less, which helps us see plays develop better. If the C can handle the workload, let him have it while L focuses on secondary defenders.

Another thing is that the longer the basketball officiating community has been doing 3p, the better we've been getting at understanding secondary coverages (curl plays, frontside open looks, etc.). Again, less movement is better than more for a crew well-versed in secondary coverage.

I'm not saying don't rotate. I'm saying do so with a purpose. It's not about lead being ball side so much as it is the crew as a whole being in the best position to maximize primary and secondary coverage views. Sometimes that means not rotating.


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To his day, most crews I see rotate too little, not too much.

3:16 on the video, I would've put him on the line. Appears the lead didn't.

However, on the rebounding foul referenced earlier in the thread, there's no way in hell that can be put on the shot. The foul was for displacing the rebounder well before the ball entered the picture.

I work for guys who prefer what cc55 is talking about. In my game yesterday I aborted more rotations than I actually made. But I do pinch the paint often

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Agree with your calls on both. Not sure if the lead did or did not since the video had a cut shortly after the foul. I suppose we could assume the action after the cut was immediately after the throwin for that foul but we can't be sure with no clock in the picture.

Yes, I saw and spoke with him for the first time in 18 years before my game Thursday.

I assume you know him, too?

What mentality? I asked a question and you gave a good answer. As far as moving more/less, it probably depends on the person. Although, when I think about this it's more of correctly/incorrectly moving/not moving.