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frezer11 Sat Feb 20, 2016 01:58pm
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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 981734)
The only difference in this area from high school to college is the application of what you do with the ball after you shoot the FTs and on some level who shoots the FTs. All dead ball contact fouls are Ts by definition (at least in NCAA Men).

Peace
In general, yes, but the play we're referencing, administration would actually be identical.

JetMetFan Sat Feb 20, 2016 05:54pm
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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 981729)
I would address this at any level. Either call a foul or stop everything. Actually at the college level this might be a bigger problem. High School kids tend to potentially have more control over them. At a JUCO game for example, this would start a fight. There is a reason plays are at the JUCO level and not the other levels. Usually it is because they are not so bright. At the D1 level, I think players know that everything is on TV and those officials are not to be messed with as a general rule.

Peace
Jeff -

Do you know if they went to the monitor on this? That might have been my first move as opposed to just calling a foul right off the bat. Regardless of what happened on a review at least the players would know they're being watched.

frezer11 Sat Feb 20, 2016 06:10pm
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Originally Posted by JetMetFan (Post 981762)
Jeff -

Do you know if they went to the monitor on this? That might have been my first move as opposed to just calling a foul right off the bat. Regardless of what happened on a review at least the players would know they're being watched.
I don't believe you're able to go to the monitor unless you call the initial foul? I'll have to look at that, but I think the foul has to be called initially, then the review could potentially change the severity of that call.

EDIT: Actually, I suppose they could claim that they are checking to see if a flagrant 2 occurred, which is the only foul that could be called after replay without an initial call on the play, but I think that's a stretch here.

JRutledge Sat Feb 20, 2016 10:27pm
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Originally Posted by JetMetFan (Post 981762)
Jeff -

Do you know if they went to the monitor on this? That might have been my first move as opposed to just calling a foul right off the bat. Regardless of what happened on a review at least the players would know they're being watched.
I will have to look again, but I do not believe this was a monitor review.

Peace

johnny d Sat Feb 20, 2016 11:16pm
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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 981731)
Maybe the center (who made the foul call), thought that the ball had already been inbounded, or was at the disposal (thus live), he appears to be looking at the two players involved, not the endline.
It wasn't even close to being at the disposal, the ball was bouncing on the floor when the foul occurred. Even if the calling official didn't know whether the ball was live or not, his partners need to bring him the information.


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