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[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by bballref3966

I believe his comment was partially inaccurate because you can't have an FF1 when the ball is dead.

Why not?

Contact that would be and FF1 during a live ball becomes a T during a dead ball. Because it happens during a dead ball, it becomes a T. If it is not enough for an FF1, it is not enough for a dead ball contact T.

[deecee]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Why not?

Because FF1 is LIVE ball only. Dead ball you have a "contact dead ball T" or unsporting T. you can have dead ball FF2 but not 1.

Also the resumption of play for a FF versus T is different.

[bballref3966]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Why not?

Contact that would be and FF1 during a live ball becomes a T during a dead ball. Because it happens during a dead ball, it becomes a T. If it is not enough for an FF1, it is not enough for a dead ball contact T.

Why not? Because the foul chart at the back of the NCAA rule book makes pretty clear that a flagrant 1 foul is a live ball personal foul.

There is no such thing as an FF1 technical. If some officials think of it that way, fine, but it's still not the correct terminology. It's not like NFHS where an intentional foul can be personal or technical.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by bballref3966

Why not? Because the foul chart at the back of the NCAA rule book makes pretty clear that a flagrant 1 foul is a live ball personal foul.

There is no such thing as an FF1 technical. If some officials think of it that way, fine, but it's still not the correct terminology. It's not like NFHS where an intentional foul can be personal or technical.

The point is that when contact that would be a FF1 during a live ball occurs, it should be ruled a technical during a dead ball. If it doesn't rise to the level of a FF1, it is generally not enough to be called (at least not for the contact itself).