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Old Mon Feb 15, 2016, 01:33am
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1.8 seconds left in the first half. Dead ball contact technical on Maryland, unsportsmanlike technical on Wisconsin result of the play.

Would anyone disqualify the Maryland player involved?
I thought I would show most of the sequence.

Yes I would eject the Maryland player.



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Old Mon Feb 15, 2016, 01:57am
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Looks like the initial call was a held ball, followed by a CDBTF on Maryland and a CLASS A unsporting T on Wisconsin. Free throws were shot in the correct order (unsporting first, then CDB) and possession was correctly given.

I think a personal foul should've been ruled initially rather than a held ball.

Should've been a flagrant 2 T.
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Old Mon Feb 15, 2016, 02:44am
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FF2 in my opinion.
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Old Mon Feb 15, 2016, 06:23pm
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After going to the monitor: why isn't red #10 also getting a T for dead ball contact?
I'd like to see what would have happened if #10 doesn't shove white #33 in the direction that he's was moving and almost causing him to fall over... Maybe nothing?
My conclusion is that the "head being shoved" doesn't take place without #10 red.
It is more than plausible that 10 red startles 33 white and is somewhat responsible for this mess!
Also, 33 white should have gotten a foul for falling on top of red #30.
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Old Tue Feb 16, 2016, 12:20am
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Can't believe he said this:

“We had a jump ball. The two players fell to the floor. We had a contact dead ball technical foul against [Stone]. Then we had an unsporting technical foul against [Thomas],” head official DJ Carstensen said after the game. “It was a flagrant one foul. That’s what we deemed it. We say that was a flagrant one contact foul. The ball was dead and there was contact.”
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Old Tue Feb 16, 2016, 02:59am
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Other than DJ deeming it an FF1 instead of an FF2 his comment sounds rather reasonable to me.

Btw Stone was suspended for Maryland's next game against Minn.
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Old Tue Feb 16, 2016, 03:20am
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Other than DJ deeming it an FF1 instead of an FF2 his comment sounds rather reasonable to me.

Btw Stone was suspended for Maryland's next game against Minn.
I believe his comment was partially inaccurate because you can't have an FF1 when the ball is dead.
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Old Tue Feb 16, 2016, 03:47am
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Perhaps, but I think that is being too picky. He clearly said that it was a contact dead ball technical foul. I believe that he then went on to clarify that they considered it to be of the flagrant one level instead of flagrant two to whomever he was speaking. (Most of us disagree with this decision.) Since the officials still need to decide the level when the contact happens during a dead ball, even though the level 1 foul doesn't get named that in the end, I don't have any issue with that way of thinking.
Actually, I believe that the NCAA should change the terminology such that the dead ball contact fouls are labeled as FF1 or FF2. It would make the whole system more consistent and clearer to everyone.
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Old Tue Feb 16, 2016, 05:36pm
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I believe his comment was partially inaccurate because you can't have an FF1 when the ball is dead.
Why not?

Contact that would be and FF1 during a live ball becomes a T during a dead ball. Because it happens during a dead ball, it becomes a T. If it is not enough for an FF1, it is not enough for a dead ball contact T.
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