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Old Thu Sep 18, 2003, 08:12pm
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Old Thu Sep 18, 2003, 09:23pm
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YEA!! I'm not the dense one this time!!!
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Old Thu Sep 18, 2003, 09:32pm
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YEA!! I'm not the dense one this time!!!
y not?
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Old Fri Sep 19, 2003, 12:40am
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YEA!! I'm not the dense one this time!!!
Wanna bet?

Let me help you out here,Chuckie. Slappy,who is usually an immaculate and accurate speller,left the "y" out of "mahem"(sic) in one of his posts.Ol' JR,being kind of an antisocial a$$hole(as well as also being a general pain in the a$$),has since tried to repeatedly point that fact out to him.I would dare say that Slappy is well aware of what I've been doing,because-being Slappy-he has been doing his damndest to return the favor.

Now,don't forget to come in out of the rain!

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Old Fri Sep 19, 2003, 02:28am
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which official do you hold reponsible to see that request?
Neither! It is the responsibility of the coach and players to get the attention of the officials when they want a TO. It seems that this coach figured out how to do that quite well.
I love it when I can spark 3 pages on this board and it's not even bball season! I purposely worded that post to incite members and elicit some responses.
Please don't misunderstand my position, since I am all for game awareness. Knowing the score, the clock, and situations in the game when TOs are likely to be called is great and I have been told by quite a few vets that I am excellent at it.
However, if a random TO request is missed at somepoint in the middle of the game because the officials' attention is directed to action on the court, I believe that responsibility falls on the team and its coach for failing to make their request recognized.
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Old Fri Sep 19, 2003, 05:55am
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I purposely worded that post to incite members and elicit some responses.
Please don't misunderstand my position, since I am all for game awareness. ...
We must be careful for what we wish.
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Old Fri Sep 19, 2003, 08:10am
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YEA!! I'm not the dense one this time!!!
Wanna bet?
I got the "y" thing. I'm not quite as dumb as I look. But I figured that you didn't get the relevance of Danno's link. That's why I was taking a little pleasure in your question.
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Old Fri Sep 19, 2003, 08:54am
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October issue of Referee Magazine arrived yesterday. A direct quote from Barry Mano, the Publisher of Referee magazine---"Sports officials are the worst critics of other sports officials. It is a damned shame, but there it is. There is so much of that kind of criticism around, there are times you feel ashamed to be part of the profession".
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Old Fri Sep 19, 2003, 09:14am
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"Sports officials are the worst critics of other sports officials. It is a damned shame, but there it is.
There it is? Why? B/c some writer says it? First of all, I'm not really sure that's true. Yes, officials often critique minute details that non-officials never notice. And yes, officials are notorious for using rating systems for biased reasons. But does that make us the "worst critics of other sports officials"? Hardly. Fans and coaches engage in personal attacks and virtiol that are sometimes truly despicable. I agree that officials scrutinize each call and are willing to tell another official that s/he blew the call; but we don't do that any more than fans, coaches, or media members. Every time a survey is done asking why officials stop officiating, the answers are about the fans and coaches. I don't ever remember the #1 reason in such a poll being, "My brother officials were overly critical of me!"

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There is so much of that kind of criticism around, there are times you feel ashamed to be part of the profession".
Second of all, even if the above is true, why did you post it in this thread?
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Old Fri Sep 19, 2003, 09:20am
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October issue of Referee Magazine arrived yesterday. A direct quote from Barry Mano, the Publisher of Referee magazine---"Sports officials are the worst critics of other sports officials. It is a damned shame, but there it is. There is so much of that kind of criticism around, there are times you feel ashamed to be part of the profession".
I think we need the mix.
We do not improve while we are continually being told that we "did fine".
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Old Fri Sep 19, 2003, 09:31am
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There is so much of that kind of criticism around, there are times you feel ashamed to be part of the profession".
Second of all, even if the above is true, why did you post it in this thread?
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Old Fri Sep 19, 2003, 09:41am
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But I figured that you didn't get the relevance of Danno's link. That's why I was taking a little pleasure in your question. [/B][/QUOTE]Uh,Stevie Wonder coulda seen what Slappy was trying to do.
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Old Fri Sep 19, 2003, 10:03am
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Uh,Stevie Wonder coulda seen what Slappy was trying to do.
Hence my glee at your apparent (but feigned) confusion.
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Old Fri Sep 19, 2003, 10:32am
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...if there was a foul, after the official reported it, he would would quickly shoot over to the coach that was trailing in the game and ask, "are you going to want a timeout?"
Please don't do this.
"Coach,if you want a TO,make sure that you're in a position where we can see or hear you,or make sure that one of your players requests it".

Agree with Dan.Never give a TO out unless you get a proper request.The rules do NOT allow for any other procedure. I'll look but I won't ask.I will use the above,if a coach tells me that he wants a TO after a FT,etc. He's gotta ask WHEN he wants it.


okay, here is how the conversation went.

Offical- "coach, it is pretty loud out here, are you going to want a time out after the free throws?"

Me- "yes I am going to want one if the seoond shot goes in."

Official - "Okay I'll be sure to look for your signal because I won't be able to hera you."


both coaches still had to signal for the timeout, the asking was to make sure so they would look over, because neither would be able to hear.
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Old Fri Sep 19, 2003, 10:35am
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Uh,Stevie Wonder coulda seen what Slappy was trying to do.
Hence my glee at your apparent (but feigned) confusion.
Hey,at least I know what JFF means!

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