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bob jenkins Mon Feb 08, 2016 10:52am

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Originally Posted by OKREF (Post 979995)
I'm pretty sure the POE reads "contact on the shooter", it doesn't specify contact rising to a certain level. It seems to me that the NFHS wants contact on the free throw shooter to be an automatic foul. However do as Rome instructs you to do.

As we discussed multiple times when the POE / pre-season guide came out -- many (and maybe most) places have said this is NOT an automatic foul and needs to be judged like other contact.

OKREF Mon Feb 08, 2016 11:05am

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Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 979996)
As we discussed multiple times when the POE / pre-season guide came out -- many (and maybe most) places have said this is NOT an automatic foul and needs to be judged like other contact.

That's why I said when in Rome.

Adam Mon Feb 08, 2016 11:26am

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Originally Posted by OKREF (Post 979995)
I'm pretty sure the POE reads "contact on the shooter", it doesn't specify contact rising to a certain level. It seems to me that the NFHS wants contact on the free throw shooter to be an automatic foul. However do as Rome instructs you to do.

Did they change the incidental contact rule, too?

OKREF Mon Feb 08, 2016 11:40am

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Originally Posted by Adam (Post 980003)
Did they change the incidental contact rule, too?

Listen, I get it. I just know how we've been instructed to call it here.

Adam Mon Feb 08, 2016 11:56am

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Originally Posted by OKREF (Post 980006)
Listen, I get it. I just know how we've been instructed to call it here.

Believe me, I can understand that.

Dad Mon Feb 08, 2016 12:11pm

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Originally Posted by OKREF (Post 979995)
I'm pretty sure the POE reads "contact on the shooter", it doesn't specify contact rising to a certain level. It seems to me that the NFHS wants contact on the free throw shooter to be an automatic foul. However do as Rome instructs you to do.

NFHS uses the word contact a lot. For the purpose of reading case books and test questions contact is always deemed a foul. NFHS will say incidental contact to make it clear they're talking about contact that isn't supposed to have a whistle on it.

I've always understood 'contact' by NFHS to mean a foul. Not that all contact is a foul.

Shooter14 Mon Feb 08, 2016 02:01pm

This situation was warranted to call a foul. It was already getting chippy. Then on the free throw (from C), I watched the defensive player take a straight path into the shooter and root him out. In my judgement, the player absolutely knew that as soon as the ball was released, he was going to be making good contact.

Adam Mon Feb 08, 2016 02:02pm

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Originally Posted by Shooter14 (Post 980034)
This situation was warranted to call a foul. It was already getting chippy. Then on the free throw (from C), I watched the defensive player take a straight path into the shooter and root him out. In my judgement, the player absolutely knew that as soon as the ball was released, he was going to be making good contact.

Then I like the idea of the violation AND the foul.


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