Couple of scenarios
(1) A1 shooting jump shot, which goes in. L whistles and signals a shooting foul; T whistles second calls the shooter for kicking out while shooting and waves off the basket? Is the proper resolution of this the same as a blarge (basket counts, B's ball) or something else.
(2) Battle in the post. Ref calls double foul on A1 and B1. POI, right? Does the shot clock reset? [Edit: NFHS question] |
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2. In NCAAM if the arrow favors the offense the clock is not reset. If one of the fouls was flagrant it would be reset. |
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+1. I agree, I don't think its a false double either. |
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And if you rule a foul by the offense as part of a double foul, it's not a player control foul. Player control fouls are common fouls. Any fouls that's part of a double foul is not a common foul. 4.19.8.C So, if you're waving off the basket citing a player control foul, this has to be a false double. |
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We need a better description of the play, to include the status of the ball and the timing of the 2 fouls.
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anyone care to answer (2) from the OP re NFHS rules? (In a game last night, it was POI with the shot clock was reset -- I thought the shot clock should not reset. Though as I write this, I remember that pure NFHS doesn't have a shot clock -- this was in California, which does.) |
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In NCAA the shot clock does not reset. |
If I have read the play right, this is NOT the traditional blarge. A blarge is one point of contact judged differently by two officials. This one iis two different actions observed by two officials while the ball remains live. If the time span is close enough, it could be considered a double foul. That would mean the shot would count and the defense would get the ball. If they were noticeably separated, I'd treat them as two fouls....a false double foul. Order of occurance... No basket (PC). Shooter gets to shots. Defense gets the ball.
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