Hi.

I saw the following at http://od.digibix.com/fiba/noticiasr...p?r=FXOYPDISMD and would like to know if anyone can verify this.

"A change in the requirements outlined in the Physical Test has been adopted, and is effective immediately. The different standards based on the age of the candidates and FIBA referees have been eliminated. From now on female participants regardless of age, must run 66 laps and male participants regardless of age, must run 86 laps as described in the FIBA document “ Physical Fitness Test for Referees”."


Thanks in advance,
GFS

Male participants from Ohio must run 86 laps around Larks. It is not recommended that female participants try this, as it may be injurious to their health.
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86 laps??! How long is one lap?

Dan, one lap is from start to finish. :D

Hmmm, can't find the referenced manual online, but I did find some info at http://www.nswbasketball.net.au/refe...3/03reffaq.htm

Q) What is the FIBA Referees Fitness Test?

A) The FIBA Referees Fitness Test is a 20-meter shuttle run. The test is conducted on a basketball court. Participants will be required to see how far they can run whilst running between the markers set 20-metres apart while remaining between the audible beeps. Based on your age you will be required to run a certain distance. [which seems to have just changed]


Assuming that a lap is one round trip, or 40 meters, 86 laps would be 3440 meters, or 2.1375169 miles (give or take a few microns).

There was no mention of how widely spaced the audible beeps are, so I don't know how long you have to do this distance.

Start TO finish! No way....

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Whilst. Never trust a person or a document that uses the word "whilst" (except Monty Python of course). Anywho...how does one remain "...between the audible beeps" I wonder? If you can't hear them you've run too far & are disqualified?

Makes sense, thanks

Did you get hair plugs,Dan?

Looks like they aint working.

Au contraire! You're looking much,uh,fuzzier than usual. The "Albert Einstein" look is YOU!

Each lap is 20 metres, 86 laps is a 10 minute run, 97 laps are 11 minutes, and 108 laps are 12 minutes.

Anyway, thanks for all your "answers", but is there anyone who can actually verify that everyone is supposed to run 86 laps?

2 Km in 12 minutes?!? Whew! I'm glad I'm allowed to be an old fogey!

Juulie, that's only a little more than a mile. You trying to tell me you couldn't do a mile in 12 minutes? I'm not sure I'm buying that.

The beeps start off fairly slow - slightly more than walking pace. The time between beeps gets progressively shorter until it gets to a point where you are sprinting to make the next marker. If you miss two markers in a row you are eliminated.

This is also a way of testing VO2max - for those of you that are interested.

Seems easy until you actually try it. Unless you keep cardiovascularly fit this test will do most people in.

Cheers
eaco

[Edited by eaco on Sep 17th, 2003 at 10:21 AM]

Eaco, that does seem like a good workout. Are the laps "cicular", like in running around a track, or do you stop & reverse direction, like doing suicides? For roughly how long during the 10 minute test are you expected to "sprint"?

I thought the FEEBLE referee test was to see how many consonents you can get into one last name and still be able to pronounce it.

this test is a joke 86 laps(20 meters each one)in total this test is only 10 min'.for me a young refree it's very easy because i'm only 24 years old but for my older freinds it's not so easy..

Dan_Ref, depending on your level of fitness, age, ability, etc., some people start to get up to sprint speed at around the 8-10 minute mark. Like I said, it depends on numerous factors.

At one stage it was scaled depending on your age. e.g. 35-44 yr old males had to get to 9 minutes. 45-54 yr old males had to get to 8 minutes. Females followed a similar protocol but they were only required to get to a level 1 minutes less than their male counterparts.

The test follows an up and back pattern, exactly like suicides. However, having said that, there is no reason why you can't do a loop. The only drawback to this is that is burns up some of your lap time and as you can imagine that makes it harder the further you get into the test.

The second part of the fitness test we do in Australia requires that we run 3 half suicides in 20", 21", and 22" with an equivalent rest time between each attempt. These, in my opinion are easy. There was a time we had to do full suicides in 30", 31" and 32" respectively.

Hope I answered your questions
Cheers

today in FIBA all refrees must do the same test-10 min'(86 laps)and the womans 8 min'(66 laps)nothing more.
i hate so much the voice of the woman from the test.."9 min' a little bit faster"..

I see, thanks. In the US we have both a physical test & an intelligence test. If you're smart enough to find the gym and fit enough to walk all the way out onto the floor to start the game you're in. Or sometimes it seems that way...

If any of you are interested, you can actually download the physical test from the FIBA website (www.fiba.com) to use in training. However, it doesn't actually tell you the required distance, but it carries on up 2 about 3.6Km if I remember right.

The 86lap shuttle run was for males 30 to 39 years of age. It takes 10 minutes to run and the total distance run is 1720 meters. It is known as the FIBA beep test.
Minute 1 - 2 is 7 x 20m laps, 140m per minute
Minute 3 - 5 is 8 x 20m laps, 160m per minute
Minute 6 - 7 is 9 x 20m laps, 180m per minute
Minute 8 - 10 is 10 x 20m laps, 200m per minute

Audible beeps? Sounds a bit pavlovian to me.

Yes the beeps are audible. you start your lap run on the beep.

Yep, makes me sweat every time I hear a beep! :D

Yes i can verify all of this to be elligable to referee ,youth league, state league, aba, nbl you have to complete the new fiba fitness test.

what if you hustle in the beginning and get ahead of the beeps? I've never heard of this test but I'd like to see do it and wouldn't mind if it were required. Then in a few years when my age starts catching up with me they can make it go away.

FIBA Test
 

As a FIBA referee in Europe we have had this version of the test for one year now.

It is basically a VO2 max test or, a 'bleep test'. Used normally it is maximum and and progressive - meaning that you are supposed to run it until you cannot make the bleeps on each turn - it gives you a level of fitness )ie your personal maximum).

As mentioned one lap is 20 metres. Normally you run between two cones, or lines and as you run, you make your turns on the bleepn (from a pre-recorded tape or CD). The number of bleeps per minute increases, so that in the first minute you can just about walk it, but with every passing minute, the number of bleeps increase.

Beacuse of the turns, it actually affects your legs more than your lungs, and it is only a 10 minute run. You are allowed to be 'late' on two turns, on the third if you arer late (it beeps before you turn) you are failed. Equally arriving early is not acceptable!!

Many officials in Europe find the last 2/3 minutes the hardest - Maybe this is psychological - But a good prcatice is to run say, the last 6 minutes, then the last 7 minutes, and so on, building up so eventaully you start at the beginning, but practice running the hardest part, and proving to yourself that you can do it.

During the season, many of us practice this once a week or maybe three times per month, practice does help.

European referees must complete this test twice per season, Pre- and Mid-. Failure to complete means you sit out. We also have to sit a rules test once per year.

When I got my international licence at 25, I had to run 108 laps, as it used to be staggered on age - less laps for older referees - This is because it is also a physiological test, testing your 'general level of fitness' based on your age.

It won't tell if you can officiate, but it will tell if you are generally fit. Having said that, there is of course a direct correlation between an official being tired, and making poor decisions,

I remember being at the Nationwide Camp many years ago and explaining the test to two NBA refs who were on the staff, who thought it was a crock........However, as they wanted to officiate the Olympics/World Champs, I think they went out and trained!

Lastly until a few years ago, most pro games in Europe were 2PO, most or the better leagues are now 3PO, as are the main FIBA Championships - Olympics will be, Europeans will be in September, and many of the U18, U20 events will be as well.

One last thing, do it on a CD version, we used a tape, and tapes stretch real quick. You end up running almost 11 minutes before you know it, but at a slower pace, which is easier!!!

Believe me when I say I will never take this bleeping test!

Re: FIBA Test
 

Thanks for the info.

Is there someplace to go to download the CD? I've googled a little for this but could not find it.

The test was created in 1982 by Leger in, I believe, Montreal, Quebec. It was revised in 1988. All versions I have seen are to be purchased. (I googled for the test about 6 months ago.)

I just re-googled it. The FIBA fitness test can be downloaded here:

http://www.fiba.com/pages/en/aboutfi...oads/misc.asp?

For anybody interested, if you hit this link and put in USA in the "search", you will get a list of FIBA rated officials. Some very familiar names are on it.

http://wwww.fiba.com/pages/media_gui...522&pn_id=178&



[Edited by Jurassic Referee on Apr 26th, 2005 at 01:28 PM]

Try this one:

http://www.fiba.com/pages/media_guid...&country_name=

That's the one. I don't have a clue why the link I provided doesn't work.

Neither do I care. :D