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Dad Mon Jan 25, 2016 03:55pm

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Originally Posted by deecee (Post 977983)
There is a difference, as far as i am concerned, with violations and fouls. One has to do with judgement and the other with black/white distinction. Missing a violation to me is more egregious as a call/no-call based on judgement, especially if your argument is "I didn't want to reach."

So what's your take on staying in your primary? Didn't perfectly follow what you were saying.

deecee Mon Jan 25, 2016 04:54pm

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Originally Posted by Dad (Post 978030)
So what's your take on staying in your primary? Didn't perfectly follow what you were saying.

There is more latitude with violations than fouls when going outside the PCA. A violation either happened or it didn't as there is no judgement. With a foul, contact either happened or it didn't, however that does not determine if a foul occurred.

BillyMac Mon Jan 25, 2016 04:56pm

That's A Mouthful ...
 
This thread reminded me of a lake in Webster, Massachusetts, Lake Chargoggagoggmanchauggagoggchabunagungamaugg. Translated from Nipmuc, an Algonquian language, "You fish on your side, I'll fish on my side, and nobody fish in the middle". Of course, that wouldn't work very well in a basketball game.

Hartsy Tue Jan 26, 2016 12:00pm

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Originally Posted by jeremy341a (Post 978029)
It is your primary coverage area not your exclusive coverage area.

Bingo. We have Primary Coverage Areas (PCA's) but we should look outside the PCA when we have nothing to officiate there, and provide Secondary coverage. It certainly gives the play a look from a different angle, and often it can be a BETTER angle.

j51969 Tue Jan 26, 2016 12:36pm

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Originally Posted by Hartsy (Post 978169)
Bingo. We have Primary Coverage Areas (PCA's) but we should look outside the PCA when we have nothing to officiate there, and provide Secondary coverage. It certainly gives the play a look from a different angle, and often it can be a BETTER angle.

This specifically applies IMO to the "C" postion. Who has a unique angle that the "L" and "T" do not have.

Adam Tue Jan 26, 2016 01:34pm

Whether you should extend beyond your primary area depends a lot on your ability as an official. Newer officials should really focus on staying in their primary. As we progress in ability, we develop the ability to determine which calls need to be made and which ones can be passed on. We also develop an understanding of just when our distance judgment might be off.

Camron Rust Tue Jan 26, 2016 06:07pm

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Originally Posted by j51969 (Post 978179)
This specifically applies IMO to the "C" postion. Who has a unique angle that the "L" and "T" do not have.

Why would it be unique to C only. Unless the T and L and standing in the same spot, each will have just as unique of a angle on any given play.

Nevadaref Tue Jan 26, 2016 09:17pm

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Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 977949)
Nothing irks me more than seeing a play clearly and deciding not to blow the whistle and then having a partner come override my decision by blowing his.

I've often asked why the judgment that the action is illegal by one official takes precedence over a judgment that it was legal by another.

The video of the end of the Georgia Southern vs App State game is a prime example of what I said here. Look at what the T and C do on the play, their positioning, their angles of view, and from where the try is attempted.

The video is posted on ESPN.com, but perhaps one of our video guys can post it here.


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