The Official Forum  

Go Back   The Official Forum > Basketball

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old Sun Jan 24, 2016, 02:24pm
Adam's Avatar
Keeper of the HAMMER
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: MST
Posts: 27,190
Nevadaref is saying this would have been a violation based on NFHS interpretation. I'm not sure where the interp is, or when it was issued, but I'm willing to be convinced.
__________________
Sprinkles are for winners.
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old Sun Jan 24, 2016, 02:42pm
Esteemed Forum Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 23,527
Car 54 Where Are You ???

Quote:
Originally Posted by Adam View Post
Nevadaref is saying this would have been a violation based on NFHS interpretation. I'm not sure where the interp is, or when it was issued, but I'm willing to be convinced.
And I'm sitting on the edge of my seat waiting for his citation.
__________________
"For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life." (John 3:16)

“I was in prison and you came to visit me.” (Matthew 25:36)
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old Mon Jan 25, 2016, 12:33am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Posts: 15,029
Quote:
Originally Posted by Adam View Post
Nevadaref is saying this would have been a violation based on NFHS interpretation. I'm not sure where the interp is, or when it was issued, but I'm willing to be convinced.
I recall the NFHS including something about contact between opponents in marked lane spaces being illegal in a recent POE. I and several others disagreed that any contact at all was illegal, but that is what the POE said. I thought that there was some equating of this "foul" to a violation too by the NFHS. Now I'll have to check and see what I can unearth.

Last edited by Nevadaref; Mon Jan 25, 2016 at 12:35am.
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old Mon Jan 25, 2016, 07:26am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Mentor, Ohio
Posts: 544
NFHS PreSeason Guide

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nevadaref View Post
I recall the NFHS including something about contact between opponents in marked lane spaces being illegal in a recent POE. I and several others disagreed that any contact at all was illegal, but that is what the POE said. I thought that there was some equating of this "foul" to a violation too by the NFHS. Now I'll have to check and see what I can unearth.
Nevada,
You might be referring to the NFHS 2013-15 Pre-Season Guide// Three-Person Mechanics. On page 4 there is a short article about using "preventive officiating to avoid potentially ugly situations during free throws. Keep player's hands off each other and know where you need to be looking to catch potential violations." Below that is a picture showing a "plane" between opponents along the lane with the caption, "Imagine a plane between hashmarks on the lane. Keeping an eye on illegal action on the lane lines can help clean up potentially ugly situations."
Although they did use the word "violations" I don't believe the interpretation in the picture meant reaching through the plane is a violation. I believe the POE was to clean up the unnecessary hand-to-hand contact that often occurs in order to avoid uglier situations.
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old Mon Jan 25, 2016, 05:55pm
Adam's Avatar
Keeper of the HAMMER
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: MST
Posts: 27,190
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nevadaref View Post
I recall the NFHS including something about contact between opponents in marked lane spaces being illegal in a recent POE. I and several others disagreed that any contact at all was illegal, but that is what the POE said. I thought that there was some equating of this "foul" to a violation too by the NFHS. Now I'll have to check and see what I can unearth.
I appreciate it. I assumed you weren't just pulling that out of thin air.
__________________
Sprinkles are for winners.
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old Tue Jan 26, 2016, 03:48pm
Often wrong never n doubt
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 737
Would the team control foul cause the ball to become dead immediately similar to a field goal attempt?
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old Tue Jan 26, 2016, 03:58pm
Adam's Avatar
Keeper of the HAMMER
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: MST
Posts: 27,190
Quote:
Originally Posted by jeremy341a View Post
Would the team control foul cause the ball to become dead immediately similar to a field goal attempt?
Yes.
__________________
Sprinkles are for winners.
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old Wed Jan 27, 2016, 10:50am
Often wrong never n doubt
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 737
Quote:
Originally Posted by Adam View Post
Yes.
So then the free throw should have never happened and it should have been B ball at the spot nearest the foul?
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old Wed Jan 27, 2016, 11:08am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Portland, OR
Posts: 1,273
Quote:
Originally Posted by jeremy341a View Post
So then the free throw should have never happened and it should have been B ball at the spot nearest the foul?
No - think it through.....this was the first of two merited free throws...
__________________
Meddle not in the affairs of dragons - for thou art crunchy and taste good with ketchup!

Last edited by TimTaylor; Wed Jan 27, 2016 at 11:12am.
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old Wed Jan 27, 2016, 11:11am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 127
Quote:
Originally Posted by jeremy341a View Post
So then the free throw should have never happened and it should have been B ball at the spot nearest the foul?
Are you saying/asking that we take the ball from Team A's free thrower (the TCF nullifies the pending FT) and give it to Team B for a spot throw-in?
Reply With Quote
  #11 (permalink)  
Old Wed Jan 27, 2016, 11:15am
Adam's Avatar
Keeper of the HAMMER
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: MST
Posts: 27,190
Quote:
Originally Posted by jeremy341a View Post
So then the free throw should have never happened and it should have been B ball at the spot nearest the foul?
What rule are you using to take away A's free throws?
__________________
Sprinkles are for winners.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Embarrassing Moment grunewar Baseball 22 Sun Sep 19, 2010 09:48pm
Most embarrassing Moment tibear Baseball 24 Sat Nov 25, 2006 10:02am
Most Embarrassing Moment mikesears Football 22 Sun Jul 03, 2005 09:59pm
Incredibly Bad Night Mark Dexter Basketball 30 Fri Jan 17, 2003 04:46am
Incredibly Stupid Coach rainmaker Basketball 10 Sun May 20, 2001 01:06am


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:20pm.



Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.3.0 RC1