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I just wanna know if they finished the game 2 man.

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I can only assume. There are no stand-by officials for regular season games.

Did they work Cadillac? [emoji14]


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I think officials can learn a lot about how 2-man is supposed to be worked by watching NCAA and NBA officials work when someone goes down. Their leads work strong side, their trails go where they need to go, and they play the percentages as best they can.

It's what all 2-person officiating should be.

I've never had the opportunity to see this and I've watched a lot of games. :(

Great points. But there is a drawback: we work a quality Cadillac in my current area and, paradoxically, it works so well that it's been one of the primary obstacles to our efforts to transition to 3-person. The schools like the product, and so they ask themselves, "why pay for a 3rd?"


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You don't work Cadillac, trust me....not unless you're still using mechanics from the 1980s. Cadillac referred to officials always working on the left side of the floor (from their perspective). Trails would crossover coming up the floor to "put the crew in Cadillac." Thankfully that nonsense went out the window in the late 1980s / early 1990s.

But if you're saying that your leads stay on one side of the floor then you simply aren't giving the game the best product you can. I can officiate post play much better by working strong-side, as can any lead official.

What you described is what we do. I wouldn't be surprised if we're the last place in America that does it. We do go strong side as L, and T goes to the top of the key to look weak side. We split the paint, too, just like in 3-p. Sometimes in transition T/new L gets run over.

Definitely a legitimate Cadillac.


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This is the second time in a week Cadillac has come up and I recall it with the same vague sense of indigestion I got when crossing over the backcourt to keep from being in "opposite." That was an actual point of feedback from evaluators - time spent opposite.

Dear lord, the memories...

There's a reason no one else is doing it. Going strong side mitigates the disaster of Cadillac somewhat, but there's just no need for it. It does absolutely nothing good for positioning.

Two years ago I would have agreed with you. But I've found it works…IF L goes ball side as necessary and the T works really hard around the arc.

If this doesn't happen, Cadillac is as good as useless.


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I was going to write something here, but I'm not sure if you agree or disagree with me, so I think I'll just ask you to clarify for me....

I thought you guys already made that change this season

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Last year was marginal, this year we're about 85%. Still several HRAC Christian schools plus our outlying Class A schools who haven't "bought in" yet.


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1. Cadillac is dumb.
2. It's less dumb if the officials are still working angles and moving, such as lead going strong side when appropriate.
3. It's still not as good as just getting into proper position and not worrying about whether the court is on your left.

I don't see the benefit of Cadillac at all. IF you're doing those things, Cadillac is still useless. The benefit doesn't come from Cadillac, it comes from the L going ball side when appropriate.

I still don't believe that they're actually working Cadillac. That mechanic died with the dodo bird and I've officiated in 5 states since it did.

Question for him:

If you inbound the ball on the right side of the floor (facing the offense's end line), are you expected to cross over the floor during the live ball or do you just work the T from that side?

Cause Cadillac means you're expected to cross over at your first opportunity and the L will respond by crossing over as well.

Now I have to look up this Cadillac thing. It sounds ridiculous.

My guess is that they appropriated that term from the days of the dodo bird.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MaOp8vs317c

11:13 mark of this video is a perfect example of this.

39:33 is an inbounds in the "right" corner and the trail official immediately moves to the left. Unseen is the L, who started right and switched sides when the trail did.

maybe teams used to be extremely right-handed. That can make Cadillac more effective by reducing the times L needs to cross-over.

But, I agree that it hasn't been useful for 20 years or so.

AT 11:13, why do the officials switch sides of the floor? Is the goal to always have the Trail on the ball side?

That's how things were done in 1987. The goal was to have the officials "go left" at the first convenient opportunity.

I enjoyed watching this, mainly cause this was my first year as a HS official.

No. The goal is to always have the players on the officials right (I think -- it's been a long time)

I also noticed the trail signaling the successful two-point goal at 39:47.

Then there's the collars.

And there it is, the trail administering the first free throw at 51:02.

A: We cross over the floor, though L always starts left in that situation. Conversely, if the throw-in is frontcourt sideline left, the L starts positioned on his right (i.e. strong side....just like in 3-p). I suppose that latter part is a slight modification to the Cadillac of old. All in all, however, the way we do 2-p helps give our new officials a feel for rotations so that the switch to 3-p mechanics later comes more naturally.


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I don't think this follows at all.

That's right. I remember when we were allowed to not signal the made baskets as the trail. Believe it or not, some officials were opposed to that.

It does in L. Our 2-p L behaves just like a 3-p L.

T…not so much. T's home base is left, but he's all over the place and when L rotates over right, T moves above the key to view the weak side.


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Much of that should happen whether you work Cadillac or not.

That's what I meant earlier, too. There's nothing about the Cadillac aspects that even remotely helps. In 2 man, I move ball side a lot.

My issue with Cadillac, and it came back to me as I was watching the video Rich posted, is that the official spends way too much mental energy looking for an opportunity to cross the court, and then puts himself into an awkward position while crossing the court.

I noticed in the video they would start in positions that were not ideal just to facilitate the Cadillac moves later.

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Some guys didn't mind working opposite and took forever to move over, and others hated working opposite and couldn't wait to move over.

Precisely. That's just working 2-person effectively. I was fortunate to have trainers when I started out that really emphasized that the T went where he needed to see the action and that the L should not be afraid to flex over and rotate when needed. It does make adapting to 3-person mechanics easier and that has nothing to do with working Cadillac (which just sounds awful).