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jpgc99 Wed Jan 20, 2016 09:26am

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Originally Posted by Rich (Post 977255)
The timer didn't make a mistake. I'm still putting time back. I look at the clock when a request is made -- that's how much time I'm giving them. If I'm a bit slow in blowing my whistle, I'm not penalizing the team for that.

You and Nevada can live on your island on this one.

I agree with your philosophy, but based on this video, I just don't see how they can put 1 second back. The officials don't seem to even recognize the timeout request until after the horn has sounded. I see no evidence that would suggest they had definite knowledge to put 1 second back on the clock.

Rich Wed Jan 20, 2016 09:31am

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Originally Posted by jpgc99 (Post 977268)
I agree with your philosophy, but based on this video, I just don't see how they can put 1 second back. The officials don't seem to even recognize the timeout request until after the horn has sounded. I see no evidence that would suggest they had definite knowledge to put 1 second back on the clock.

Perhaps they just didn't react and blow a whistle. Hearing a coach request a timeout wouldn't show on film.

BigCat Wed Jan 20, 2016 11:31am

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Originally Posted by Rich (Post 977255)

You and Nevada can live on your island on this one.

Pretty harsh Rich. Banishing me to an island…with Nevada... for disagreeing with you. I'm going to invoke the VIII Amendment and it's prohibition of cruel and unusual punishment…my wife would suggest Nevada do the same…:)

frezer11 Wed Jan 20, 2016 12:05pm

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Originally Posted by jpgc99 (Post 977268)
I agree with your philosophy, but based on this video, I just don't see how they can put 1 second back. The officials don't seem to even recognize the timeout request until after the horn has sounded. I see no evidence that would suggest they had definite knowledge to put 1 second back on the clock.

And this is where we just don't know without being able to actually ask the officials who worked the game. Is it possible that they knew there was a TO with time left, but didn't know the time and guessed? I suppose, I'd like to hope not, but it is at least possible. So assuming positive intentions from the crew, I think it's easiest to justify in my mind that they saw the request, noted the time, and for whatever reason, were simply late in the visual reaction. (maybe they were just trying to have a patient whistle.......... ha!)

Rich Wed Jan 20, 2016 12:11pm

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Originally Posted by BigCat (Post 977308)
Pretty harsh Rich. Banishing me to an island…with Nevada... for disagreeing with you. I'm going to invoke the VIII Amendment and it's prohibition of cruel and unusual punishment…my wife would suggest Nevada do the same…:)

Heh. That's funny, I don't care who you are...

SD Referee Wed Jan 20, 2016 12:26pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rich (Post 977255)
The timer didn't make a mistake. I'm still putting time back. I look at the clock when a request is made -- that's how much time I'm giving them. If I'm a bit slow in blowing my whistle, I'm not penalizing the team for that.

You and Nevada can live on your island on this one.

I'm with Rich on this one. Had this last night. I did exactly what he described above. I knew the timeout was coming and was looking at the clock while listening for the coach.


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