You don't have to be squared up on contact. For all I care the defender gets LGP when the offense is at half court. No time or space. No reason to make this a difficult call and officiate if the offense isn't faced the correct way on impact.

What did the defense do wrong?

And by the way he was walking off the baseline, it looked to me like he was going the other way with this one.

I don't think we can say what it was from this view. The C and the L both had much better angles than we had.

Unless I saw and a view form the another angle, I'm going with inconclusive.

This is just like a recent video I watched that looked like a charge over and over, until they showed an endline view that revealed the defender leaning out to get the contact.

I've got a block as well.

There is none.

MTD, Sr.

I noticed that. He looked like he was getting ready to ship it.

From this angle, easy PC (not sure how anybody is getting a block on this video to be honest) and definitely not a flop.

Offensive Charge!
It may be the player-turned-coach-turned official, in me; but on a two on one play, where the ball-handler dribbles 45 plus feet of court and doesn't pass ahead to his open teammate... I'll always reward the defense, on a close play. Any good coach would tell his player: Pass the frigging ball!

It also needs to be noted that the defender had his arms out-stretched, not vertical. Some of that contact occurs with the left arm.

That's what I saw the first few times I watched it - it looked like the main contact may have been on the outstretched arm...but it's hard to tell from the angle of the video.

Seems fairly incidental considering that the bulk of the contact is against the defender's shoulder.

It looks like A1 used his left hand to help elevate himself beyond B1.

Btw, I have a block here since the defender did not have LGP until after A1 is already in his habitual shooting motion and first contact is initiated by B1. A1's left hand comes into play after these two factors.

I did notice that also.

I don't think that's the rule anymore.

It's not. But for fun, I analyzed it from that perspective, and under the rule that only lasted a year or two, this would have been a block.

As it is, we have the torso argument, and the left arm argument. 50/50 from here. I'd love to get a look from C's angle, and I wouldn't question his reasoning regardless because this was very close for lots of reasons.


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That is not the deciding point for when the defender has to obtain LGP under any rule set. Even in the NBA, a defender has to obtain a legal position prior to the offensive player's upward movement of his shoulders to be considered legal. The habitual motion is almost always well before this point. And under NCAA/NFHS rules, a defender must obtain legal position prior to the opponent being airborne. The habitual motion is well before this point at to use this at the deciding point is penalizing the defense.