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UNIgiantslayers Fri Jan 08, 2016 02:00pm

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Originally Posted by BigT (Post 975826)
And how did it go?

He either didn't recognize me out of context (we were about 40 miles from where the game took place and I had no idea that he lives so close to me), or he acted like he didn't recognize me.

BigT Fri Jan 08, 2016 02:11pm

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Originally Posted by UNIgiantslayers (Post 975827)
He either didn't recognize me out of context (we were about 40 miles from where the game took place and I had no idea that he lives so close to me), or he acted like he didn't recognize me.

I would have issued a 2nd T for ignoring you and tell him he has been ejected from working that day and smiled.

UNIgiantslayers Fri Jan 08, 2016 02:14pm

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Originally Posted by BigT (Post 975829)
I would have issued a 2nd T for ignoring you and tell him he has been ejected from working that day and smiled.

I did offer to fight him, but he declined. His kids were with him, and I said I'd be happy to go 3 against 1.

HokiePaul Fri Jan 08, 2016 03:46pm

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Originally Posted by UNIgiantslayers (Post 975750)

After the game right after we observe the handshakes ...

Maybe this is a local thing, but as soon as the horn sounds, I'm leaving with my partners unless there is an issue that needs to be resolved at the table.

No way I would stay and observe handshakes and be available for questions unless my association required it.

JRutledge Fri Jan 08, 2016 03:52pm

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Originally Posted by HokiePaul (Post 975836)
Maybe this is a local thing, but as soon as the horn sounds, I'm leaving with my partners unless there is an issue that needs to be resolved at the table.

No way I would stay and observe handshakes and be available for questions unless my association required it.

There is a state that requires this and he is likely from that state. But otherwise thank God we are not asked to do this silliness either. All it can do is cause problems.

Peace

BlueDevilRef Fri Jan 08, 2016 03:54pm

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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 975817)
To say they do not listen is overstated. They might not listen for long, but I believe they listen. I just think we have to keep is short and sweet. We also have to give a sportsmanship talk, but nothing word for word. Some people have the right energy or the right attitude and they will control that meeting for the few seconds it lasts.







I personally do not like to even talk about timeouts as I think coaches know the rule and know they have to tell us. That might have been a concern in the first couple years of the rule, but now this is not an issue. They do it in college and the rule is basically the same and coaches are not apart of that meeting at all in college.



Peace


So then why are a majority of us having to clarify the length of timeout with coaches? Happens all the time to me and amongst the partners I talk with this about.

It is the last thing I mention at the pregame and coaches still hear "I asked, you didn't answer, so it was charged as a full."


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JRutledge Fri Jan 08, 2016 04:26pm

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Originally Posted by BlueDevilRef (Post 975838)
So then why are a majority of us having to clarify the length of timeout with coaches? Happens all the time to me and amongst the partners I talk with this about.

It is the last thing I mention at the pregame and coaches still hear "I asked, you didn't answer, so it was charged as a full."

People feel the need to do a lot of things that do not matter. It does not mean it is necessary. Again when I am the referee I never mention timeouts and some reason they tell us like they would otherwise. Just like people say, "White talks to white and black talks to black." Well I think that is not necessary but people say this often. It makes no difference to me what people say when they run their meeting. That is ultimately their business. I only do what I found works in my experience and saying that does not seem to make much of a difference said or not said.

Peace

BlueDevilRef Fri Jan 08, 2016 05:11pm

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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 975844)
People feel the need to do a lot of things that do not matter. It does not mean it is necessary. Again when I am the referee I never mention timeouts and some reason they tell us like they would otherwise. Just like people say, "White talks to white and black talks to black." Well I think that is not necessary but people say this often. It makes no difference to me what people say when they run their meeting. That is ultimately their business. I only do what I found works in my experience and saying that does not seem to make much of a difference said or not said.



Peace


I totally agree and would like to use your like button on this. What I mean by this is that, to me, they ain't listening anyway so let's just get rid of the meeting.


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Adam Fri Jan 08, 2016 05:30pm

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Originally Posted by BlueDevilRef (Post 975838)
So then why are a majority of us having to clarify the length of timeout with coaches? Happens all the time to me and amongst the partners I talk with this about.

It is the last thing I mention at the pregame and coaches still hear "I asked, you didn't answer, so it was charged as a full."


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I'll ask and look for clues. If the players go to the bench, it's a full. If they don't, I'll ask until I get to the table. I can't remember not getting an answer.

Adam Fri Jan 08, 2016 05:32pm

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Originally Posted by HokiePaul (Post 975836)
Maybe this is a local thing, but as soon as the horn sounds, I'm leaving with my partners unless there is an issue that needs to be resolved at the table.

No way I would stay and observe handshakes and be available for questions unless my association required it.

Not local. It's a requirement for officials in MA. Officials everywhere else should not be sticking around for the postgame handshake.

Rich Fri Jan 08, 2016 05:33pm

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Originally Posted by Adam (Post 975849)
Not local. It's a requirement for officials in MA. Officials everywhere else should not be sticking around for the postgame handshake.

Or retrieving the damned ball and delivering it, either.

Adam Fri Jan 08, 2016 05:38pm

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Originally Posted by Rich (Post 975850)
Or retrieving the damned ball and delivering it, either.

Or shaking hands with the table.

BlueDevilRef Fri Jan 08, 2016 05:44pm

Leaving the floor is the fastest I sprint all night long (don't know how to do blue font on phone app but it would only be slightly blue, I do not stick around for anything)


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Rich Fri Jan 08, 2016 05:50pm

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Originally Posted by Adam (Post 975851)
Or shaking hands with the table.

Or standing there and waiting for a thumbs up from the scorer in a 30 point ballgame.

ODog Sat Jan 09, 2016 11:25pm

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Originally Posted by Adam (Post 975849)
Not local. It's a requirement for officials in MA. Officials everywhere else should not be sticking around for the postgame handshake.

Yup, and it's a nightmare. You just stand there with a feeling of dread until it's over. Mass. has also done away with 30-second timeouts. It's just five full, probably for the last six seasons now.


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