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Nevadaref Thu Jan 07, 2016 09:33pm

Jersey rule question
 
I need some clarification on what the heck this rule means, if anyone knows. I believe that I need a picture.

The last sentence of 3-4-1b: "The imaginary line at the base of the neckline shall not extend beyond 1 1/2 inches from the lowest point of the neckline apex/opening."

BigCat Thu Jan 07, 2016 10:35pm

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Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 975717)
I need some clarification on what the heck this rule means, if anyone knows. I believe that I need a picture.

The last sentence of 3-4-1b: "The imaginary line at the base of the neckline shall not extend beyond 1 1/2 inches from the lowest point of the neckline apex/opening."

I plugged in "nfhs uniform rules" in Internet and a pdf document with pictures was there. Nfhs.org. 2015/16 uniform rules. The uniform jersey has a V neck opening. The "imaginary line" in the picture runs across the front of the jersey right below or even with the bottom of the V. There are no restrictions on the area above the imaginary line. I'm guessing that the "beyond 1.5 inch" language means that the imaginary line could be lowered 1.5 inches from the bottom of the V. That would give a team more room above the line and would affect placement of numbers below it. I don't know.

Nevadaref Thu Jan 07, 2016 11:04pm

I have the PDF. It doesn't mention the sentence about which I have the question.

My guess as to what it means is the same as you wrote. However, I find that confusing. Why not just write the rule one way with precision? Either say that it is a line across the apex of the neckline or a line 1 1/2 inches below the opening of the neckline.

Having pictures of one while the other is in the book is confusing.

BigCat Thu Jan 07, 2016 11:15pm

The document I opened had two pages. The second page drawing did have the language next to it but didn't point out exactly what it meant. An arrow or something would have been helpful.

The placement of the imaginary line affects what can go where above and below the line. I'm assuming they wanted to give teams flexibility to have bigger number or bigger memorial patch. I don't know. One clear rule would be........clear. So we know that won't happen....

BillyMac Fri Jan 08, 2016 07:24am

What Exit ???
 
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Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 975717)
Nevadaref

Why does an official from Nevada have a question about a rule in New Jersey?

LRZ Fri Jan 08, 2016 09:31am

These diagrams seem pretty comprehensive: https://www.nfhs.org/media/1015580/2...l-uniforms.pdf

But I'm not bringing a tape measure or level out onto the court with me.

WhistlesAndStripes Fri Jan 08, 2016 11:45am

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Originally Posted by LRZ (Post 975748)
These diagrams seem pretty comprehensive: https://www.nfhs.org/media/1015580/2...l-uniforms.pdf

But I'm not bringing a tape measure or level out onto the court with me.


I once worked with a guy who travelled to remote villages with a tape measure. He used it to measure basket height hand distance from the rim to the FT line.


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bob jenkins Fri Jan 08, 2016 12:16pm

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Originally Posted by Whistles & Stripes (Post 975783)
I once worked with a guy who travelled to remote villages with a tape measure. He used it to measure basket height hand distance from the rim to the FT line.


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Why would he measure that (ignoring the typo on "hand")? The book specifies the distance from the face of the backboard to the FT line.

And, while there's usually a pin-hole in the floor directly under the center of the basket, you'd also have to measure the basket diameter to be sure the FT line was the correct distance from the backboard.

;)

Camron Rust Fri Jan 08, 2016 12:21pm

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Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 975800)
Why would he measure that (ignoring the typo on "hand")? The book specifies the distance from the face of the backboard to the FT line.

And, while there's usually a pin-hole in the floor directly under the center of the basket, you'd also have to measure the basket diameter to be sure the FT line was the correct distance from the backboard.

;)

Don't forget the length of the flange! ;)

BoomerSooner Fri Jan 08, 2016 01:31pm

Has there ever been a movement to have some process by which these types of things are approved and certified on regular basis so that officials don't have to mess with them?

For example, could state associations develop a process by which schools submit uniform designs online and receive an approval to document the uniform meets the required standards. I don't think many of miss the obviously illegal uniforms, but the stuff like having a patch half an inch too low on the jersey or the numbers are a quarter inch too narrow aren't as easy to spot. I don't think too many of us worry too much about those types of things to begin with, but it would be nice to know that the matter has already been looked at and approved. It would also benefit those schools that have someone without knowledge of the rules design uniforms that end up being illegal and then encounter the expense of buying a second set that are legal. If they have to get approval first, then they don't get the illegal ones made in the first place.

The same concept could be used for fields and courts. Someone could come out annually or biannually and inspect the fields/courts and certify them. Doesn't eliminate our responsibility to check for abnormal situations or things that might have been altered after the inspection, but hopefully it eliminates the problems that are hard/impossible to correct (court not marked properly or improper size).


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