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BillyMac Fri Jan 01, 2016 07:46pm

I'm Pretty Sure That You're Not A Welcher ...
 
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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 974897)
.. you keep posting as if you need my agreement to move on.

There's the matter of the bet. Then we can all mosey on along.

BillyMac Fri Jan 01, 2016 07:48pm

Where's The Like Button ???
 
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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 974900)
Right now we have nothing but an opinion either way, including mine.

Agree 100%, and in regard to your interpretation opinion, I like it, while others may not.

Rich Fri Jan 01, 2016 08:59pm

I think you're wrong, Billy. The thrower-in should be able to stand anywhere along the end line. Whether the officials adjust shouldn't be their problem....

JRutledge Fri Jan 01, 2016 09:08pm

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Originally Posted by Rich (Post 974913)
I think you're wrong, Billy. The thrower-in should be able to stand anywhere along the end line. Whether the officials adjust shouldn't be their problem....

And it could be said that where we hand the ball to them is not our problem either.

Still all about opinions, not an actual procedure.

I feel no need to accommodate them on when what we do mechanically.

Peace

Rich Fri Jan 01, 2016 09:11pm

What if the thrower in goes to the spot he wants? The rule says he can throw from any spot on the end line, after all.

JRutledge Fri Jan 01, 2016 09:23pm

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Originally Posted by Rich (Post 974915)
What if the thrower in goes to the spot he wants? The rule says he can throw from any spot on the end line, after all.

I would do just like I always do, bring them to where I am standing or want to put the ball in play.

Do you let them stand in the lane for a throw-in? I don't.

Peace

OKREF Fri Jan 01, 2016 09:31pm

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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 974918)
I would do just like I always do, bring them to where I am standing or want to put the ball in play.

Do you let them stand in the lane for a throw-in? I don't.

Peace

Not on a spot throw. However the rulebook says ..."A throw in anywhere along the endline". How can we prohibit what the rules expressly allow?

BillyMac Fri Jan 01, 2016 09:42pm

Spot ???
 
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Originally Posted by OKREF (Post 974920)
"A throw in anywhere along the endline".

Good point. Are there differences between a throwin, and an indicated (an IAABO term) throwin spot (not designated)? Even on a run the endline throwin we have to start off somewhere, we can't be running along the endline with the player until we put the ball at his disposal.

Rich Fri Jan 01, 2016 09:43pm

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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 974922)
Good point. Are there differences between a throwin, and an indicated (an IAABO term) throwin spot (not designated)? Even on a run the endline throwin we have to start off somewhere, we can't be running along the endline with the player until we put the ball at his disposal.


Exactly. And why shouldn't the player choose that spot?

BillyMac Fri Jan 01, 2016 09:45pm

Rocket Ship Diagram © 2009, Back In The Saddle ...
 
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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 974918)
Do you let them stand in the lane for a throw-in?

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Originally Posted by OKREF (Post 974920)
Not on a spot throw. However the rulebook says ..."A throw in anywhere along the endline". How can we prohibit what the rules expressly allow?

Because of this (below):

https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7137/7...40b397d7_m.jpg

BillyMac Fri Jan 01, 2016 09:50pm

Is A Throwin The Same As A Throwin Spot ???
 
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Originally Posted by Rich (Post 974923)
And why shouldn't the player choose that spot?

He can. Officials, not players, are authorized to indicate (IAABO term) a spot. After that, on a run the endline throwin, the player can choose to make the throwin from anywhere along the endline, even in the middle of the lane (even though I would never hand the ball to him there).

Checkout my title: Is A Throwin The Same As A Throwin Spot ??? Note that it's in the form of a question, just like on Jeopardy.

JRutledge Fri Jan 01, 2016 10:12pm

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Originally Posted by OKREF (Post 974920)
Not on a spot throw. However the rulebook says ..."A throw in anywhere along the endline". How can we prohibit what the rules expressly allow?

I know this, but I never hand the ball with the player in the lane. I have always been told you give the ball to them on one side of the lane (that is the mechanic too if I am not mistaken).

Peace

jpgc99 Fri Jan 01, 2016 11:09pm

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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 974924)

Do you only pick one of the two spots where there are arrows on the sideline?

By the way, I'm not advocating for giving the ball to someone standing in the middle of the lane, but I don't think this diagram would be the reason why.

JRutledge Fri Jan 01, 2016 11:44pm

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Originally Posted by jpgc99 (Post 974929)
Do you only pick one of the two spots where there are arrows on the sideline?

By the way, I'm not advocating for giving the ball to someone standing in the middle of the lane, but I don't think this diagram would be the reason why.

https://scontent.fdtw1-1.fna.fbcdn.n...60123738_o.jpg

This is a better diagram. You do not put the ball in the lane according to the beloved manual.

Peace

packersowner Sat Jan 02, 2016 12:03am

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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 974690)
I have no idea what you are trying to convey. And what looks lazy and confuses partners? :confused: What would look lazy to me is telling A1 he has to start where you tell him just to save the C and new Lead walking a few steps to swap positions.

My comment was only related to bouncing the ball across the lane. Slightly different scenario, but it illustrates the point of bouncing the ball across the lane and why it can be confusing.

In 2 Man, if I am the T and see the ball go OOB on T side of the court, I am going to make the assumption that my partner is going to walk across the lane and take the ball out where it went OOB. When I turn up the court to become new lead and rotate from one side to another, I don't want to see my partner on the same side. For me its consistency, if we always "take it out" where it went out, then its a lot easier for the new L to get into the right position.


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