Incorrect Test Answers
 

Okay, we got our tests back for review today. They say I missed 8. I have serious issues with their results.

A1 is at the free throw line for a single try. The official bounces the ball towards A1, and does not see that B3 is trying to get to the 3rd lane space on the opposite side. By the time A1 catches the ball, B3 is crossing the free throw line, moving into the 3rd lane space. The officials stop the free throw, take the ball from the shooter, and allow the players to reset along the lane. No violation is called.

true or false

False.

For another $50 (sent to me RefPay account; see https://forum.officiating.com/basket...t-schools.html, :p) I will tell you the correct procedure.

MTD, Sr.

Pants On Fire ...
 

This is not a true/false question. True means that the situation really happened. False means that the test writer lied abut the situation.

How about ending the question with "Is the official correct? Yes or No?"

I say no, the officials were not correct. Correct would be a delayed violation on B3.

I know what a good crew would do.

Sent from my SPH-L900 using Tapatalk

Haha, so do I. And they wouldn't write a laughable question like this either. ;)

If she moves after I bounce the ball to shooter, fist extended out, shooting it again if it is missed.

So for those of you who say you know what a good crew would do, please elaborate


I wish I had a cool signature

Blow the whistle, get the ball back, and reset everything?

You've changed the question.

Sent from my SPH-L900 using Tapatalk

For the situation described in the OP, yes.

Sent from my SPH-L900 using Tapatalk

I see that you are correct. In the instance of the OP, I would blow it dead and reset it bc my action caused the "violation". I don't know if it is correct or not, but I always pause a bit before administering to make sure nobody is set up wrong or moving.


I wish I had a cool signature

It's a no brainer to me. Player is moving and I didn't notice. My bad. Let's go.

The question should be whether a violation has occurred.

The ball is not live until it is at the disposal of the shooter, which is when he/she catches it: 6-1-2c, 4-4-7b, 9-1-3d, f, g.

Accordingly, no violation has occurred.

Therefore, blow the whistle, verify that everyone is ready, and restart the free throw.

Good point, I should have made that point when bluedevil brought up the other scenario.

Delayed Violation ...
 

How is this not a live ball before the violation? A1 catches the ball and then B3 moves into an unoccupied lane space. Delayed violation.

Based on the OP, I would say that the ball being caught by A1, and B3 entering happen simultaneously, not in series. I think that gives us the wiggle room to be able to say, "Hold up, my bad" and reload. If the shooter clearly has it, and THEN B3 enters, delayed violation.

By the book yes. But as it has been stated the acceptable approach is that we blow the whistle get the ball back and start over. Shouldn't punish a team because we were in a rush.

By the way, a little off topic here, but what route is he taking that he needs to cross the free throw line??? Should that maybe say lane line? Another example of a question that could easily be worded much better...

Oh I agree entirely, if its even remotely close I will kill it. I've never once had a coach make any sort of argument that there may have been a violation. Now if its 2 seconds after A1 has it? Too late

Wiggle Room ...
 

Agree 100%.

I think they meant FT line extended.

Well even so, think about the route taken to get to the 3rd spot. Either he's pointlessly walking down the sideline and going to take a 90 degree turn once he gets inside the FT line extended, or he's so far inside the 3 point line that there is no way anyone should've administered the ball in the first place. Just odd.

Interesting discussion. No doubt many of us would blow the play dead and allow the player in with no penalty if we thought we were at fault for not seeing
him. But technically I don't see any provision in the rules for doing so, and that's what I think of the test as being, all about technicalities. And what about all the variables here which are unknown? B3 may have been standing in this same spot behind the free throw shooter all night, but decided at the last split second for whatever reason to step in on this one. I think technically this is false, but in real life it is very often true, and should be. Moreover, I will file it away under BAD QUESTIONS WHICH SHOULD NEVER, EVER APPEAR ON A TEST.

Thanks for the opinions.