I'm criticizing the NFHS and state of Oklahoma. But OKREF keeps defending his state's decision makers, so he catches the flack by proxy. He instead should have been questioning his state for passing along bad info without further clarification.

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Huh?

The only thing OKREF said after his initial post was "And we've been told to follow the POE". I think I'm going to avoid posting what the Ohio High School Athletic Association and/or my assignors tell me to do, because it sounds like it will get twisted into me too blindly following somebody.

If they pass on bad information and as a serious official one doesn't at least send an inquiry back to the state, well I just don't know what to say about that.

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I asked about the POE. I also said there was nothing in the rulebook disallowing a defense player from crossing the free throw line, and I asked do we follow the rulebook, or the POE. The answer I got was the POE is an extension of the rule. I sent an inquiry asking the relevent question. I don't need to keep going back and forth and argue with the people who make the decisions here. I know some people on this forum would do that, but I prefer to just do as I'm instructed.

My boss doesn't have to tell me why I have to do something at work, I just have to do it. Just like in this case. It would be nice to get further clarification, but it's certainly not necessary for me to do my job.

And what does it matter? Would you like a representative of the NFHS to make a video, apologizing for their mistake?

We'll ask our "people" what they want to be done, and we should do it. Plain and simple. If you want to talk about their decision, and the merits of such, that's fine. But to attack somebody that's just "following orders" is ridiculous.

The bad information was the verbiage about the type of foul to call if there was illegal contact.

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They put out bad information about the type of foul to call for illegal contact. Did you even know that?

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Are you talking about the preseason guide that I first brought up in this thread? The thing about the technical foul? I looked back and I don't see where Oklahoma or OKREF talked about what type of foul to call should one occur.

I understand that. Did I ever say anything about that? If you read the actual POE from the NFHS it says nothing about contact.



FREE THROW SHOOTER
Rule 9-1-3g was revised in 2014-15 to allow a player occupying a marked lane space to enter the lane on the release of the ball by the free thrower. As a result of this change, protection of the free thrower needs to be emphasized. On release of the ball by the free thrower, the defender boxing out shall not cross the free-throw line extended into the semicircle until the ball contacts the ring or backboard. A player, other than the free thrower, who does not occupy a marked lane space, may not have either foot beyond the vertical plane of the free-throw line extended and the three-point line which is farther from the basket until the ball touches the ring or backboard or until the free throw ends

I am not attacking anyone. I just have been in a state that has noticed the NF screw up and does not blindly go along with it. It seems like every year the NF Guidebook has issues that our state has to clarify and usually tells us the guide is wrong. It happened this year in football. The Head Clinician in that sport went around talking about the mistakes and told us not to follow them.

Peace

Hmmmm. [emoji41]

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The guy shared with us what he was told, and it sounded like he was being hounded. And I don't agree that the state, in this case, "blindly" went along with it. Like others have said right here, it was clearly meant to be in the rules, but was mistakenly left out. Why would they have a POE without meaning to make it a rule?

I know... using logic is bad.

I got another quote for you, which came shortly after that from 10 days ago..

You're still going on about that?

That isn't from the actual POE, it's from a magazine article, which after the fact I shouldn't have typed "according to the POE". It's all good though, I don't have to worry about what people in other states have been instructed to do. I asked, found out,

Actually on the NFHS website, this appears.

Interpretations: All interpretation questions are to be directed to the local state association. The NFHS only addresses interpretations at the request of the state association.

So, I correctly ask my rules interpreter, following the guidelines of the NFHS, get an answer, and I'm wrong for that. Our director of officials also told me he would pass my questions on up to the NFHS. So, like I said, I will still do as instructed by my state until further notice.