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Video Breakdown and Analysis (Video)
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Making Every Effort to Be in the Right Place at the Right Time, Looking at the Right Thing to Make the Right Call Last edited by APG; Thu Aug 13, 2015 at 02:35pm. Reason: embed is our friend |
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easy one. illegal screen opposite side of paint from where the ball is being inbounded. As to why, who knows? maybe he thinks the offensive player can blind side the defense on a screen and time/distance don't apply. He's new. Why do any of us "miss" making a call? Could be skill level, or he/we suck.
edit: I do want to add if the implication is that he is ball watching, thats a tough inference to make from that angle.
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in OS I trust Last edited by deecee; Thu Aug 13, 2015 at 01:21pm. |
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I am not totally convinced that is an illegal screen. But it is close. I would have to see other screens during that game to see if that was consistently not called.
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The screener hit the trifecta:
1. He caused the contact 2. The contact delayed his opponent 3. The screener wasn't given a chance to stop or change direction As to why it wasn't called I go with JRut's reasoning: Maybe it hadn't been called up to that point in the 1st half.
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2. Screens are supposed to delay the opponent. 3. Screens are no necessarily supposed to allow you to change direction or stop if they give you the proper time and distance. If anything I am wondering was the screener outside of his frame a not allowing normal movement? That would have been the reason I would have called a foul in this case. But overall the angle is bad and hard to ultimately tell. It is just not a slam dunk. Peace
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I agree...and if the C also agreed, then he didn't necessarily miss anything. He may have seen it and passed on the call.
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It's Nice Of Him To Help His Partner ...
Yep. I can see a little finger flip as he counting five seconds.
Didn't we have a video on the Forum a few years ago of a nonadministering official calling a five sound violation from about forty feet away from the inbounder? If remember correctly, it was a classic.
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2. Screens are supposed to delay the opponent but they're not legal if the screener causes contact while delaying the opponent. 3. The screener has to allow a moving opponent an opportunity to stop or change direction, i.e., a "normal" step
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Screens are often set in tight places and this is one of them. Not sure that falls into my standard as a foul. It is not a great screen, just do not know if I would call a foul. Peace
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Loved C's positioning (came onto the floor a little bit because there wasn't much weak side action on the throw-in).
Loved C's focus (I highly doubt he was ball watching). Loved C's posture (he's engaged and looks comfortable). I agree with some that game context matters, but absent that info, I think he's got plenty of good reasons to pass on this call. I think I would have, too. A2 got in the way of his view at the last second, and I don't think there's much he could have done to get a better look at that point, so this would be the only reason he might have "missed" the call if there indeed was a call to be made. On another note, we're trained to referee the defense, but I tend to referee the offense until the throw-in ends because that's where fouls seem to come from (screens, push-offs, hold-and-chucks, etc.). Anyone else use and/or have thoughts on this technique? |
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I think there is a foul but I'd bet this is the reason why C didn't call it (and why it took me three viewings to see the foul).
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That is my thought. He had a patient whistle and realized that, while certainly eligible for a foul, the contact was completely irrelevant to what was happening.
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