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JetMetFan Sun Aug 16, 2015 12:37pm

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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 965911)
Not only is he too high, but he was also on to the court for no reason. If he stays at home base at C, all he has to do is take one step up along the sideline as the screener comes up to maintain an angle to see the contract.

His sloppy positioning at the C led to all the problems on this play. The Trail is still on ball and doesn't need help yet with that aspect of the play. The C had absolutely no reason at all to be in the position he was in when the video begins.

Sloppy is a bit harsh. He probably went where he felt he needed to go to see between the players, which is rarely a bad option. As to being off the sideline, he's not 2-3 steps onto the court. His heels aren't on the sideline. That's not horrible, especially since there isn't a great deal of room between the boundary and the bench.


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Originally Posted by johnny d (Post 965912)
I didn't look at the video, so I cannot comment on this particular play. However, as a general rule, just because there are players, even a significant number of them, in a particular area does not mean there is anything going on. Perhaps, none of the 8 players were involved in a competitive matchup.

They all weren't competitive but that doesn't mean he wouldn't notice his side of the court was getting rather crowded. If that's me, I know I would've been thinking, "L come over...L come over." He may even have moved up in anticipation of the L coming over - thus making him the new T. There's a lot of stuff going on his 1/3 of the world. Not to say the call shouldn't have been made but it's not as though the second screen was the only thing on his mind.

Camron Rust Sun Aug 16, 2015 06:26pm

Positioning, whether it was great or not isn't why he missed this play. No matter how good of a position you get, you can't get the call if you aren't looking at the right area in time. He seemed to be watching the previous action...a screen for cutter and the defender that was trying to keep up with him (a legitimate thing to be watching) and he turned is head to the play of interest just as the screen was happening....too late to know how the contact developed. This is even more a reason for the L to have come across as there ended up being more than 1 matchup for C to look at.

Raymond Sun Aug 16, 2015 07:32pm

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Originally Posted by JetMetFan (Post 965918)
Sloppy is a bit harsh. He probably went where he felt he needed to go to see between the players, which is rarely a bad option. As to being off the sideline, he's not 2-3 steps onto the court. His heels aren't on the sideline. That's not horrible, especially since there isn't a great deal of room between the boundary and the bench.
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He steps up and on to the court and turns at an angle, creating tunnel vision, to look back down into the paint at 3 defenders doing nothing. If he stays flat to the sideline and FTLE extended he maintains a wide open view. A1/B1 would come into his left peripheral and he would be looking right at A2 and see his potential screen.


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