LL Balk question

[umpjim]

Originally Posted by bigda65

Then yes it is really confusing rich, and why I asked.
There is only a penalty listed in this years book for e, which is an illegal pitch.

So yes very confusing.

8.05 calls it an illegal pitch for majors/minors with runners on for any "balk" violation. It further calls (e) and (g), the true IPs, a ball without runners for majors/minors.
It is confusing and was a change in the wording a year or two or three ago. Before that we did not call "balks" in majors/minors other than the true IPs.

[Rich Ives]

Originally Posted by umpjim

8.05 calls it an illegal pitch for majors/minors with runners on for any "balk" violation. It further calls (e) and (g), the true IPs, a ball without runners for majors/minors.
It is confusing and was a change in the wording a year or two or three ago. Before that we did not call "balks" in majors/minors other than the true IPs.

You should have been calling them all along. The wording change was just to clarify that a "true" illegal pitch was just (e ) and (g ).

[umpjim]

Originally Posted by Rich Ives

You should have been calling them all along. The wording change was just to clarify that a "true" illegal pitch was just (e ) and (g ).

I seem to remember some guidance to only call the two IPs with or without runners in the past. Looking at the wording in 2011, it was miss guidance, and we should have been calling 8.05 violations also. Of course, the most common, violation in majors in below would be failure to go thru with the pitch and that didn't happen often.