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Batter doesn't reach first
This happend to a friend last week NFHS varsity.
Pitcher for the visiting team is at bat. he receives ball 4. The team sends out their coutesy runner while the batter runner is on his way up the baseline. The BR stops 6 feet short of the base and turns and heads for the dugout. What rule covers this case? 8-4-2-p covers a runner abandoning the base after touching first. |
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Sounds like desertion. I have never seen this happen. HS players around here always go to 1b when walked and then stand there while the courtesy runner gets out there, even after time is called to make the change.
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A mechanically sound umpire would never allow this to occur. The CR cannot come out until time has been granted. We do not grant time after a BB until the BR touches 1B.
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An exception could be made if F2 is injured before going to first (hit by pitch for example), but we're into 10-2-3g territory now. |
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How else would a sound umpire prevent this besides coacing the kids "Hey get back here and touch first!". |
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To me this is just an appealable thing. Im not banging a kid oit for abandoning the bases but I'm also not going to "run" the CR (not on your life! Talk about the $#*! end of the stick).
At the varsity level these kids should know what to do and what not to do. Telling the kid to touch first could lead to more problems then allowing the appeal.
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I've never had this happen, but a quick "Hold up until he touches" to the incoming CR would seem reasonable.
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So, you allow the BR to veer off and head to the dugout while the CR comes in to occupy first base. The defense appeals that the BR never went all the way to first.
What rule will you use to call the BR out at that point (I assume by your statement that it's an "appealable thing" that you would rule the BR out)? And does that rule require an appeal in order to make the out determination?
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Honestly, it was a quick reaction post. San the rulebook and what not.
More then likely it would involve me telling the CR to wait until he touches first. However, the HS book does require players to touch each base in order or be at risk of being put out. So I do have some support (I believe) for my previous statement.
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What do you do when the coach wants to visit the pitcher after a base on balls and wants the time out while the BR is going to first? You say, 'wait till he gets to first', right? Whats different about this?
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