SS barely in the same zip code as 2B in Tigers-Red Sox game.

[Crabby_Bob]

Originally Posted by Rich

This is a screenshot FROM THAT VIDEO!

See how close the SS is? Is he "not in the same zip code?"

You be the judge. (If the stupid image will display)

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Crabby_Bob

You be the judge. (If the stupid image will display)

Oh, I always knew the runner was safe. I just don't think it's the end of the world that the call was missed.

I can't *wait* for replay so people realize that getting the call 100% right isn't necessarily the desired outcome every time.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by Rich

Oh, I always knew the runner was safe. I just don't think it's the end of the world that the call was missed.

I can't *wait* for replay so people realize that getting the call 100% right isn't necessarily the desired outcome every time.

Rich:

???? We are supposed to get the call correct every time (at least try to get the call correct every time). And as I stated in my OP, MLB players are the best players in the world. Why should they be held to a lower expectation of performing the game that we would expect of a H.S. player? This call changed how the rest of the inning was played. Instead of runners on a 1B and 2B with zero outs, there was only a runner on 1B with one out.

MTD, Sr.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

Rich:

???? We are supposed to get the call correct every time (at least try to get the call correct every time). And as I stated in my OP, MLB players are the best players in the world. Why should they be held to a lower expectation of performing the game that we would expect of a H.S. player? This call changed how the rest of the inning was played. Instead of runners on a 1B and 2B with zero outs, there was only a runner on 1B with one out.

MTD, Sr.

I'm really not talking about this play in particular. There was a collision in the plate in extra innings earlier in the postseason which was treated as a routine out on the field. Possible, however, that the catcher, in bracing for the collision, never actually tagged the runner. I'll sit back with a bowl of popcorn the first time a play like THAT is challenged and overturned.

[APG]

Originally Posted by Rich

I'm really not talking about this play in particular. There was a collision in the plate in extra innings earlier in the postseason which was treated as a routine out on the field. Possible, however, that the catcher, in bracing for the collision, never actually tagged the runner. I'll sit back with a bowl of popcorn the first time a play like THAT is challenged and overturned.

This is the play Rich is referring to:

Video: Must C Cannon: Beltran's amazing throw saves game | MLB.com



The best look starts at the 2:00 mark.

[cmckenna]

Check out this related article about this exact play and how replay might fix it :-) They also suggest implementing the FPSR in MLB

Y! SPORTS

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by APG

This is the play Rich is referring to:

Video: Must C Cannon: Beltran's amazing throw saves game | MLB.com



The best look starts at the 2:00 mark.

Safe!

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

Rich:

???? We are supposed to get the call correct every time (at least try to get the call correct every time).

The call that's correct for the game isn't always the call that's technically correct by the rule. Or, at least it hasn't been.

When I saw this play live I thought the runner might have been called safe at 2B. This was a big play too. What is the expectation/ruling for distance from the bag in this situation?

[briancurtin]

Originally Posted by AremRed

What is the expectation/ruling for distance from the bag in this situation?

on the bag = out
not on the bag = safe

Insofar as still pictures can give us solid evidence, it looks like a tag to me:

[hbk314]

Originally Posted by AremRed

Insofar as still pictures can give us solid evidence, it looks like a tag to me:

That angle's as deceptive as the one Rich posted for the neighborhood play. If you watch the video, especially a second or two after that screenshot is taken, it's clear no tag occurred.

[jicecone]

"They also suggest implementing the FPSR in MLB".

And when this happens then and only then will the neighborhood play no longer be called. You may like that but, that's Baseball.

[Rich Ives]

Originally Posted by hbk314

That angle's as deceptive as the one Rich posted for the neighborhood play. If you watch the video, especially a second or two after that screenshot is taken, it's clear no tag occurred.

Actually it's clear that it is inconclusive.

[UMP45]

Originally Posted by briancurtin

on the bag = out
not on the bag = safe

Wrong. On the bag=out. Off the bag=out.