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umpjim Fri May 24, 2013 10:51am

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Originally Posted by CT1 (Post 895366)
Good Grief.

You not only don't call it in the 7th inning, you don't call it at all. Make F3 get right, or get a new F3.

If your state uses FED F3 only has to have one foot touching fair territory at TOP.

David B Fri May 24, 2013 11:44pm

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Originally Posted by umpjim (Post 895370)
If your state uses FED F3 only has to have one foot touching fair territory at TOP.

Correct and he told the coaches that - we went to game two in the series and U3 balked us in another run and even our coach told me he don't know what the guy did - U3 said he flinched. Then PU called out one of their runners on appeal at 3B on a long fly ball to left field - where i was sitting I had a perfect view and was watching the play and no way he left early - these were young umpires though and as others have mentioned, sometimes the pressure gets to them.

We did lose that game, but getting two runs from "blue" was kind of nice.

Thanks
David

BigUmp56 Sat May 25, 2013 04:13pm

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Originally Posted by Steven Tyler (Post 895297)
Are you asking because you don't know?

Since I'm not much of a seer, of course I don't know who else here would have balked him, Wayne. I'm hoping most of the members here would have. Do you have an opinion worth sharing? About the call or non-call of the balk...............

Tim.

hbk314 Wed May 29, 2013 12:09pm

Missed the FPSR and called a non-existent balk.

Impressive.

Steven Tyler Thu May 30, 2013 10:37am

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Originally Posted by BigUmp56 (Post 895498)
Since I'm not much of a seer, of course I don't know who else here would have balked him, Wayne. I'm hoping most of the members here would have. Do you have an opinion worth sharing? About the call or non-call of the balk...............

Tim.

I wouldn't have balked it............stop looked complete, and discernible to me..............not sure of the who the "you" was you were referring to. Maybe small ball guys would have called it........but not a competent high school playoff umpire.

BigUmp56 Thu May 30, 2013 12:40pm

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Originally Posted by Steven Tyler (Post 896036)
I wouldn't have balked it............stop looked complete, and discernible to me..............not sure of the who the "you" was you were referring to. Maybe small ball guys would have called it........but not a competent high school playoff umpire.

I disagree. I think all competent umpires would have called a balk as soon as he set with his hands in front of his body and then broke them apart. If you'll read my question it was about a situation prior to the balk that ended up being called. Please keep up.............

Tim.

JRutledge Thu May 30, 2013 12:59pm

Don't we all have different levels of judgment? That is the case in other sports, so why are we surprised in baseball? Some guys are going to call balks more than others. I do not think that is necessarily a bad thing. I would have rather talked a player out of a "technical balk" but would eventually call something that was obvious to me.

Peace

BigUmp56 Thu May 30, 2013 01:25pm

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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 896053)
Don't we all have different levels of judgment? That is the case in other sports, so why are we surprised in baseball? Some guys are going to call balks more than others. I do not think that is necessarily a bad thing. I would have rather talked a player out of a "technical balk" but would eventually call something that was obvious to me.

Peace

I agree, Jeff. Then again, there are balks and then there are elephant balks that aren't discretionary. I would put the one I'm talking about in the latter category, which is why I'm surprised they missed it.

Tim.

Steven Tyler Mon Jun 03, 2013 03:12pm

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Originally Posted by BigUmp56 (Post 896050)
I disagree. I think all competent umpires would have called a balk as soon as he set with his hands in front of his body and then broke them apart. If you'll read my question it was about a situation prior to the balk that ended up being called. Please keep up.............

Tim.

Oh..........I suppose you're talking about when the batter hadn't entered the box yet. Yep, that's a balk all competent umpires call. Maybe this website is too advanced for you.

BigUmp56 Tue Jun 04, 2013 08:49am

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Originally Posted by Steven Tyler (Post 896496)
Oh..........I suppose you're talking about when the batter hadn't entered the box yet. Yep, that's a balk all competent umpires call. Maybe this website is too advanced for you.

I thought I was specific enough about the time frame in which the balk occurred. The batter is in the box, the ball is in play, F1 is on the rubber with his hands together in front of his body, and then he breaks them before stepping off. Maybe you should take a look at it again (52:37), and give an opinion on the play I'm talking about. The small ball comment, and remark about this site being too advanced for me are really not germane to the issue.

Tim.

Steven Tyler Wed Jun 05, 2013 02:03am

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Originally Posted by BigUmp56 (Post 896562)
I thought I was specific enough about the time frame in which the balk occurred. The batter is in the box, the ball is in play, F1 is on the rubber with his hands together in front of his body, and then he breaks them before stepping off. Maybe you should take a look at it again (52:37), and give an opinion on the play I'm talking about. The small ball comment, and remark about this site being too advanced for me are really not germane to the issue.

Tim.

I saw it the first time around.......looked like play had been stopped for a second or two judging from the catcher and HPU. Eagle Pass lost in the region finals if anyone cares.

Steven Tyler Sat Jun 08, 2013 04:02am

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Originally Posted by nopachunts (Post 895131)
Check out Hughes Springs. They have a stud pitcher. They opt for a one gamer as much a possible.

That can happen in baseball or softball...........anyhow the state semis and finals are just a one and done. I remember when I played football only one team made the playoffs from a district. A lot of 9-1 teams stayed home.

nopachunts Mon Jun 10, 2013 09:21am

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Originally Posted by Steven Tyler (Post 896916)
That can happen in baseball or softball...........anyhow the state semis and finals are just a one and done. I remember when I played football only one team made the playoffs from a district. A lot of 9-1 teams stayed home.

I know and they are talking about taking the top four now.

MD Longhorn Mon Jun 10, 2013 09:50am

They have been taking 4 for a while in both the 5A and 4A classifications.

nopachunts Mon Jun 10, 2013 10:40am

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Originally Posted by MD Longhorn (Post 897014)
They have been taking 4 for a while in both the 5A and 4A classifications.

Isn't the UIL planning on expanding the top four to 3A and 2A next year. I may be wrong on this one. When does the new 6A classification start?


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