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Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. Tue Feb 26, 2013 03:36pm

Umpire calls Time.
 
NFHS Rules (and NCAA and MLB too, but keep the rulings seperate).

Situation: Two outs; R3 on 1B; two strikes on B4 (the number of balls do not matter in this Situation). B4 swings and misses on a pitch in the dirt that F2 fields the pitch (catches the ball but by rule this is an uncaught third strike). PU (does not see the pitch hit the playing surface) signals a strike; then calls Time (:eek:), and then calls the B/R4 out. During this time R3 started to break for 2B and B/R4 started to run toward 1B.

What say you?

MTD, Sr.

egj13 Tue Feb 26, 2013 03:49pm

What did the fielders do? Not that it matters really because the play was over once he called time? hmmm

bob jenkins Tue Feb 26, 2013 04:01pm

If PU didn't see the pitch hit the dirt, then it didn't hit the dirt. ;)

Even in FED, if it gets reversed, then you can rectify the situation (so it's a likely out).

maven Tue Feb 26, 2013 04:12pm

What the heck is a B/R4?

Other than that, what Bob said. PU ruled it a catch and the B/R out. He's out. Finding out later that he missed it is conversation for post-game.

MD Longhorn Tue Feb 26, 2013 04:44pm

The OP says that F2 "catches" the ball. So it didn't hit the ground. If it hit the ground, he didn't catch it.

I've got a batter out... and if my partner tells me it hit the ground, then "rectifying" the situation results in an out anyway.

DG Tue Feb 26, 2013 09:48pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. (Post 882074)
NFHS Rules (and NCAA and MLB too, but keep the rulings seperate).

Situation: Two outs; R3 on 1B; two strikes on B4 (the number of balls do not matter in this Situation). B4 swings and misses on a pitch in the dirt that F2 catches. PU (does not see the pitch hit the playing surface) signals a strike; then calls Time (:eek:), and then calls the B/R4 out. During this time R3 started to break for 2B and B/R4 started to run toward 1B.

What say you?

MTD, Sr.

I say brain fart and damage control upcoming.

Mashell Wed Feb 27, 2013 04:09am

I want to know what the heck is a B/R4?

dash_riprock Wed Feb 27, 2013 06:17am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mashell (Post 882158)
I want to know what the heck is a B/R4?

B4 (the batter) became a batter/runner

CT1 Wed Feb 27, 2013 07:06am

I hope I live long enough to see FED adopt the nomenclature used by every other governing body in the baseball-playing world.

dash_riprock Wed Feb 27, 2013 07:24am

Quote:

Originally Posted by CT1 (Post 882166)
I hope I live long enough to see FED adopt the nomenclature used by every other governing body in the baseball-playing world.

You have a better chance to see every other governing body in the baseball-playing world adopt the FED nomenclature.

jicecone Wed Feb 27, 2013 08:22am

[QUOTE=Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.;882074]NFHS Rules (and NCAA and MLB too, but keep the rulings seperate).

Situation: Two outs; R3 on 1B; two strikes on B4 (the number of balls do not matter in this Situation). B4 swings and misses on a pitch in the dirt that F2 fields the pitch (catches the ball but by rule this is an uncaught third strike). PU (does not see the pitch hit the playing surface) signals a strike; then calls Time (:eek:), and then calls the B/R4 out. During this time R3 started to break for 2B and B/R4 started to run toward 1B.

I agree with the majority but, please take this official aside and slap them on the side of the head. I can't recall in 30 years ever seeing an official call "Time out" after a 3rd out.

Of course, if this is one of those what if, the moon is in the seventh house, and jupiter aligns with mars questions, then it speaks for itself.

MD Longhorn Wed Feb 27, 2013 09:48am

Quote:

Originally Posted by jicecone (Post 882178)
I can't recall in 30 years ever seeing an official call "Time out" after a 3rd out.

Actually, this is a good point. If you think about it, the only reason he has to call TIME at this moment is if he saw something else - some other reason to kill the play other than simply a catcher catching the 3rd strike of a 3rd out. So maybe our hypothetical umpire here did NOT fubar the situation - maybe there's just something the hypothetical observer did not see, that the umpire did.

Manny A Thu Feb 28, 2013 02:36pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by MD Longhorn (Post 882187)
Actually, this is a good point. If you think about it, the only reason he has to call TIME at this moment is if he saw something else - some other reason to kill the play other than simply a catcher catching the 3rd strike of a 3rd out. So maybe our hypothetical umpire here did NOT fubar the situation - maybe there's just something the hypothetical observer did not see, that the umpire did.

I'm trying to come up with something he might've seen at that particular moment that would've prompted killing play and ruling the batter out.

He signalled the Strike first, so he didn't see a batter contact a pitch while out of the batter's box.

Maybe he discovered after the swing that the batter was using an illegal bat? :p


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