Good grief. Make up your mind, will you? You can't say it's a jump turn and also say he stepped back. They are diametrically opposite conclusions.

For the record, please look again at the video ... exactly what direction did his pivot foot go? It gains significant ground toward third base. Yes - it moves slightly back as well, but it still fits within the description you quoted (and simultaneously said you couldn't find... Meh Huh?)

How can you possibly sleep when someone on the internet is still disagreeing with you?

Ok, the "Practical"
 

Practically, you call what you see.

[You can stop there, unless you're interested in a dissertation.]

From the beginning, I've held the umpires blameless. Maven straight out ASSUMES they saw the step back and ruled (!) it a jump turn (where do you stand on this now, babe?). I don't subscribe to UES's slippery slope business either. Carl says he never sees the Cain move, but Carl regularly does a little better baseball than I do. As in 1999, I still see the Cain move often. The frequency diminishes as the age and skill level increases. The older boys are losing precious fractions of a second stepping back and turning (Cain) rather than just turning (MLBUM). From a practical standpoint, if I couldn't see the step back, I'll rule as the MLB umpires did in the Cain play. You can't call what you don't see. To the offensive coach, "I'm sorry Skip, he was so quick, I didn't see the step back. Please go back to your dugout now as I really don't want to run you for something I missed."

Where in any interp anywhere does the landing place of the pivot foot on a jump turn come into consideration? The only concern should be gaining distance and direction with the free foot.

Rich "deity" Ives
 

You know what I find ironic, Rich, is that you'll notice in my dissertation I placed you in the unknown column. This is because prior to my dissertation, your only contribution to this thread was the above "deity" quote. It's now clear which side you're on, and thus, to whom your quote was directed. Do you find it disconcerting that your cornerstone has crumbled? You have a choice to step back and consider other views, even those that conflict with your long held beliefs, decide whether to change your views, or continue the righteous indignation you continue to display.

Lapopez, do you have a point to this other than to provoke a response?

You're right, I'm done.

In your cornerstone
 

"... by moving his pivot foot in the direction of third base..."

The interp that says in order to disengage, you have to step back off of the rubber. Do disengage forward is not a legal disengage and is to be considered a throw from the rubber

All robins are birds. Not all birds are robins.

You don't SEEM done.

Seriously ... is there any further point to this, or are you just trying to agitate your audience?

An open letter to Bob Pariseau.
 

Dear Bob,

If someone, or something like Google, has brought you to this thread, it gives me the opportunity to thank you for inspiring me so many years ago to persist in the study of baseball rules so that I could try to help others to have the same passion the way you did.

I would love to hear from you. My email is below.

You're the best.

Thanks again,
Paul Lopez
[email protected]

With that, I think the thread has run its course.

Thanks for all of the discussion.