Tag/No Tag

[Manny A]

Originally Posted by MD Longhorn

You are starting way too early.

Hmmm. In the discussion of the Ichiro play, you mentioned that the tag attempt starts when the catcher had the ball and started to make his turn. Here at 0:35, the first baseman has the ball and is starting to move towards the runner. What's the difference?

Originally Posted by MD Longhorn

Not even close. You don't judge where his slide takes him. You judge him from the moment a tag attempt begins to when it ends (it ended, um ... when he tagged him, in this case! ).

I understand that. But his momentum from when the tag was actually made (but judged as missed) and where he ended up was essentially a straight line. If he was that far from the bag on the slide, he was pretty much that far from the baseline he started from when the fielder initiated his tag attempt.

Originally Posted by MD Longhorn

Frankly, this is exactly the type of play that IR could help with... simply because there was no follow-on action.

On this particular play, Yes. But the use of IR for a certain call should apply to all situations. You really shouldn't have a policy that says, "We will use IR for tag plays only if there is no follow-on action."

That's why MLB is reluctant to use IR on catch/no catch. It would be pretty straight forward to use IR if the catch/no catch situation came with no other base runners. But once you have multiple runners that either tagged up or didn't tag up, etc. etc., IR would cause problems.