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harmbu Thu Oct 11, 2012 04:42pm

Can Brenly Really Be This Clueless?
 
In the NLDS Game 4 in Washington, Cardinal Pitcher Kyle Lohse was attempting to bunt. When a pitch missed the strike zone and Lohse pulled away, Bob Brenly said something like, "It really looked like he left the bat out too long. If he keeps the bat in the hitting zone when the ball is there it is a strike." He did not say anything about making an attempt to bunt the pitch.

The saddest thing about hearing things like this is that the casual fan thinks someone with Brenly's baseball experience knows what they are talking about. I would hope that when he was a player or manager, he did not argue with umpires with statements like the one above.

johnnyg08 Thu Oct 11, 2012 05:37pm

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Originally Posted by harmbu (Post 857976)
In the NLDS Game 4 in Washington, Cardinal Pitcher Kyle Lohse was attempting to bunt. When a pitch missed the strike zone and Lohse pulled away, Bob Brenly said something like, "It really looked like he left the bat out too long. If he keeps the bat in the hitting zone when the ball is there it is a strike." He did not say anything about making an attempt to bunt the pitch.

The saddest thing about hearing things like this is that the casual fan thinks someone with Brenly's baseball experience knows what they are talking about. I would hope that when he was a player or manager, he did not argue with umpires with statements like the one above.

Yes, he can be this clueless.

Manny A Fri Oct 12, 2012 07:05am

Maybe he coaches a daughter who plays softball? ;)

MD Longhorn Fri Oct 12, 2012 08:27am

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Originally Posted by Manny A (Post 858003)
Maybe he coaches a daughter who plays softball? ;)

NCAA Softball, no one else.

BretMan Fri Oct 12, 2012 08:36am

FWIW and for the sake of accuracy...

Other softball sanctioning bodies have mimicked the NCAA ruling that holding the bat in the strike zone equates to an offer at the pitch. NFHS and USSSA are two of them (I'm fairly certain that there are others, just not sanctioning bodies I deal with on a regular basis).

So, "NCAA Softball, no one else" is not a true statement.

We now return you to our our regularly scheduled baseball discussions...:D

Manny A Fri Oct 12, 2012 08:48am

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Originally Posted by MD Longhorn (Post 858016)
NCAA Softball, no one else.

NFHS as well. I think ASA is the only major organization that still requires an actual movement of the bat towards the ball to be a bunt attempt.

I just hope those recent rule changes don't find their way to baseball.

Rich Ives Fri Oct 12, 2012 09:37am

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Originally Posted by BretMan (Post 858017)
FWIW and for the sake of accuracy...

Other softball sanctioning bodies have mimicked the NCAA ruling that holding the bat in the strike zone equates to an offer at the pitch. NFHS and USSSA are two of them (I'm fairly certain that there are others, just not sanctioning bodies I deal with on a regular basis).

So, "NCAA Softball, no one else" is not a true statement.

We now return you to our our regularly scheduled baseball discussions...:D

LL adopted it too for their softball divisions.

robbie Fri Oct 12, 2012 10:35am

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Originally Posted by Rich Ives (Post 858032)
LL adopted it too for their softball divisions.

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Manny A Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:45am

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Originally Posted by harmbu (Post 857976)
The saddest thing about hearing things like this is that the casual fan thinks someone with Brenly's baseball experience knows what they are talking about.

Brenly's obviously not alone. Former players who work as color men in the booth are notorious for butchering the rules.

Remember the play where the umpires sent Nats Michael Morse back to the plate to run out a grand slam after they verified through replay that the ball went over the wall? Nats announcer FP Santangelo mentioned that a runner passing another on a home run is irrelevant. I guess he thought a there were no violations since the ball is dead. Ummm, no, FP, but thanks for playing.


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