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briancurtin Thu Oct 11, 2012 09:52am
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Originally Posted by MD Longhorn (Post 857926)
I can't imagine ANY catcher wants the umpire's hands on him while he's trying to field a 90+ mph moving pitch.
I wouldn't do it myself, but it's not bad. You forget about it after the first few pitches.

(I was a catcher through college)

dash_riprock Thu Oct 11, 2012 10:23am
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Originally Posted by briancurtin (Post 857946)
I wouldn't do it myself, but it's not bad. You forget about it after the first few pitches.

(I was a catcher through college)
I think you are an anomaly, Brian. I have asked a lot of college catchers about this, and just about all of them said they hate being touched by the umpire, although none of them said they would object to it.

MNBlue Thu Oct 11, 2012 11:25am
What is the advantage of being that close and/or putting your hands on the catcher?

Steve Meyer Thu Oct 11, 2012 12:44pm
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Originally Posted by briancurtin (Post 857946)
I wouldn't do it myself, but it's not bad. You forget about it after the first few pitches.

(I was a catcher through college)

You must have sat the bench then, because I've caught quite few games myself, and this stuff wouldn't fly with me.

jicecone Thu Oct 11, 2012 12:46pm
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Originally Posted by MNBlue (Post 857951)
What is the advantage of being that close and/or putting your hands on the catcher?
Obviously the advantage is what has worked for him, in the +-10 yrs as a MLB Umpire. Although I would never subscribe to a stance like that, it is the thing that makes him comfortable behind the plate and enables him to do a good job with his strike zone.

I used to have a much lower crouch before my knees started to go bad and then I had to adjust. I used to feel that if I was looking at about the same height as the catcher was I had the best view. After two surgeries and a renewed stance, (Gerry Davis) I think I have have a better view and bigger zone.

Now as far as putting your hands on the catcher, I never liked it when I caught and would never do it to another catcher. A few times I asked the umpire not to do it because it bothered me and they always respected my wishes.

MNBlue Thu Oct 11, 2012 01:19pm
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Originally Posted by jicecone (Post 857960)
Obviously the advantage is what has worked for him, in the +-10 yrs as a MLB Umpire. Although I would never subscribe to a stance like that, it is the thing that makes him comfortable behind the plate and enables him to do a good job with his strike zone.
That's my question. Is it helping him lock in to his stance? Is it guiding him to the set height he wants? Is it guiding him to the distance behind the catcher that he wants?

jicecone Thu Oct 11, 2012 02:44pm
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Originally Posted by MNBlue (Post 857962)
That's my question. Is it helping him lock in to his stance? Is it guiding him to the set height he wants? Is it guiding him to the distance behind the catcher that he wants?
Sorry I can't answer for him.

GA Umpire Thu Oct 11, 2012 03:38pm
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Originally Posted by MNBlue (Post 857962)
That's my question. Is it helping him lock in to his stance? Is it guiding him to the set height he wants? Is it guiding him to the distance behind the catcher that he wants?
Any of this is possible. Some even say it helps to know where the catcher is going as well b/c they feel the shift.

If any ever did it, as a catcher, I never even noticed. As long as they didn't hinder me (and none did), I had other things to worry about.

APG Thu Oct 11, 2012 03:50pm
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Originally Posted by Steve Meyer (Post 857958)
You must have sat the bench then, because I've caught quite few games myself, and this stuff wouldn't fly with me.
This statement makes absolutely no sense at all.

Steve Meyer Thu Oct 11, 2012 04:30pm
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Originally Posted by APG (Post 857974)
This statement makes absolutely no sense at all.
Why not?

johnnyg08 Thu Oct 11, 2012 05:42pm
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Originally Posted by Manny A (Post 857913)
This is Phil Cuzzi, and he's been using this close-in stance for a while. Here's another one of him with Orioles catcher Matt Wieters (sorry for the large size).

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3584/5...158d6c0e_z.jpg

I'm sure Phil has no problem opening the gate and not interfering with a catcher's throw.

Personally, I would never get that close.
That is a fantastic shot...how did you get a hold of that?

APG Thu Oct 11, 2012 07:46pm
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Originally Posted by Steve Meyer (Post 857975)
Why not?
Sorry...read you initial post incorrectly.

Manny A Fri Oct 12, 2012 07:01am
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Originally Posted by johnnyg08 (Post 857979)
That is a fantastic shot...how did you get a hold of that?
I just did a Google Images search for Phil Cuzzi.

bob jenkins Fri Oct 12, 2012 07:47am
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Originally Posted by APG (Post 857974)
This statement makes absolutely no sense at all.
it makes sense if you know his history.

Adam Fri Oct 12, 2012 08:21am
It may make sense, but it was borderline.


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