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Embed is your friend:

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Which is more surprising; Emmel not immediately realizing this was a force play, or the announcers thinking it was a tag play.........

Tim.

Technically, it's not a "force play" at first. It's a missed base appeal. And my understanding is that if the B/R does not successfully acquire 1B as the third out, no run scores. Basically, the B/R must occupy 1B or any runners advancing on the play do not score.

Did they end up scoring the run or wiping it?

No run.

Exactly continuing action at first still treated as appeal of missed base, therefore no run should be scored.

There is no such thing as a force play at first base. There is no such thing as a force play at first base. There is no such thing as a force play at first base.There is no such thing as a force play at first base.

There is no such thing as a force play at first base.

The embedded videos are too small and don't allow me to watch it "full screen." For this video, it's probably alright. But, when I'm looking for details on close plays, I prefer the original links over the embedded video.

Click on it after it starts playing. It will come up at the original site.

At least it did for me.

Rita

I wonder if the professionals read these kinds of forums. I'm not saying that we know more than they do. It's just that all kinds of screwy situations happen out there in our games that are rare in theirs. If they read about them, they might be more ready to rule confidently when something screwy happens in their games.

I don't know how often I've been prepared when something odd came up that I had already read about.

Rita

I think the odds are slim. Would you frequent a board or consider it very very credible, when, more often than not, you and your partners are criticized as much when you are right as when you are not?

Do you remember the treatment Rob Drake got here when he posted?

Look at 0:24. U1 is asked a question and responds with the word, "force" - guess he has forgotten too.

The umpires got it correct: no run scores. It's not a force play, and "continuing action" is irrelevant.

The BR acquired 1B when he passed it, but acquiring it is not sufficient to score the run. He must touch it.

4.09a:
One run shall be scored each time a runner legally advances to and touches first,
second, third and home base before three men are put out to end the inning.
EXCEPTION: A run is not scored if the runner advances to home base during a
play in which the third out is made (1) by the batter-runner before he touches first
base; (2) by any runner being forced out; or (3) by a preceding runner who is
declared out because he failed to touch one of the bases.

I agree!!

Not every device allows you to embed a video. My cell phone does not. Sorry to inconvenience you, causing you to have to spend so much time clicking an external link. I'm sure it was difficult for you and took a lot of extra time with having to move your mouse and click at the same time.

Next time feel free to ignore the link.

Somebody got up on the wrong side of home plate.

He was helping you. Being nice. For all of us. I've done it for people.

That's all

Rita

First off, thank you blueump for finding the play and sharing with the forum.

I wasn't trying to be snarky with my post, and if you thought I was, I apologize as it wasn't my intent. As MLB has only allowed embedding of plays recently, a lot of people don't know that MLB has embedable clips and was trying to point that out since it adds convenience for almost all.

In a semi-similar sitch, I was coaching (yes, I moved to the dark side for two years--eons ago) and won a protest on touch of 1B.

You'll get this, but the umps and scorer that day didn't.

R2, 2 outs (my kids are in the field). B1 hits a gapper. R2 scores, B1 ends upon 2B. But I had a suspicion that B1 MAY have missed first. I induce my F3 to properly appeal at 1B, where U1 calls "out."

As my team gets ready to bat, I see that scoreboard has added R2's run. I calmly walked out to the dish, where scorer confirms the run.

I announce to PU that I am lodging a protest (this is LL, where such unpleasantness must be solved before the next pitch). PU blew up at me. I remained calm. It took umpteen phone calls, but the run was wiped. Of course, we lost the game.

Ace in PA

At least you won the battle. ;)

My bad. You're right I overreacted and took it personal. I apologize for my harshness.