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Old Sun Aug 19, 2012, 08:14am
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Jim Palmer trying to match Tim McCarver
Listen to him rant. "how can another Umpire have a better look?"
"they can't eject Reynolds for throwing his glove" "I wonder if Buck will protest?" He's a Moron!!!
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Jim Palmer, "Let's at least get part of this right."
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Old Sun Aug 19, 2012, 12:24pm
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Guys, it was a clear equipment malfunction!

The way these guys were speaking, it's as if they've never seen a game of baseball, much less MLB, in their lives.
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Old Sun Aug 19, 2012, 02:56pm
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They were obviously both correctly dumped.

My question is why did the Home Plate Umpire say pulled foot if he was not certain.
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Old Sun Aug 19, 2012, 02:57pm
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They were obviously both correctly dumped.

My question is why did the Home Plate Umpire say pulled foot if he was not certain.
No clue. He was wrong, though.
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Old Sun Aug 19, 2012, 03:06pm
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They were obviously both correctly dumped.

My question is why did the Home Plate Umpire say pulled foot if he was not certain.
Where did he say he wasn't certain?
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Old Sun Aug 19, 2012, 06:18pm
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If he was not certain, he should have given no opinion.
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Old Sun Aug 19, 2012, 06:33pm
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Maybe he was certain?
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Old Sun Aug 19, 2012, 07:39pm
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This is where "get it right" gets it wrong. It was so close and I think the original call was correct. Oh well, welcome to MLB.

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Old Mon Aug 20, 2012, 10:51am
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Maybe he was certain?
No, he guessed wrong. There is no way he clearly saw the foot off the bag before the ball was in the glove...because it did not happen.

Unless I clearly see that my partner is wrong, there is no way I am going to be a party to him changing his call.

In this case, there is no way that he clearly saw that he was wrong because he was not wrong.
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Old Mon Aug 20, 2012, 12:23pm
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No, he guessed wrong. There is no way he clearly saw the foot off the bag before the ball was in the glove...because it did not happen.

Unless I clearly see that my partner is wrong, there is no way I am going to be a party to him changing his call.

In this case, there is no way that he clearly saw that he was wrong because he was not wrong.
This is incorrect. You can be certain of what you saw and still have seen it incorrectly. There's no law of the universe that says we always see things the way the actually happen.

And at any rate, I think he was safe.
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No, he guessed wrong. There is no way he clearly saw the foot off the bag before the ball was in the glove...because it did not happen.
So now he guessed? Where do you get all of this information from?
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This is incorrect. You can be certain of what you saw and still have seen it incorrectly. There's no law of the universe that says we always see things the way the actually happen.

And at any rate, I think he was safe.
It has got to be right if you give that kind of information. I know I had doubt when the call was made live. It cannot be kind of right or what you think it might have been, it must be RIGHT. We all have judgment calls and those judgment calls will be wrong. I think he was out but at first glance I thought the call was incorrect. Sometimes we just have to live with the close ones. I even think if replay was involved this would have stayed the same way.

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It has got to be right if you give that kind of information. I know I had doubt when the call was made live. It cannot be kind of right or what you think it might have been, it must be RIGHT. We all have judgment calls and those judgment calls will be wrong. I think he was out but at first glance I thought the call was incorrect. Sometimes we just have to live with the close ones. I even think if replay was involved this would have stayed the same way.

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I agree with all of this. I just giving the PU the benefit that he was certain he was right.
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Did anyone see a view from the CF camera that showed the ball in the glove? 'Cause I'm not sure F3 had complete control of the ball throughout the play.

Not that PU could have seen that either.
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