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JR12 Thu May 24, 2012 08:41am

HS Trick Play
 
I saw no fake tags here.
Bases loaded 2 outs. F1 fakes throw to 2nd base. Defense acts like the ball went int CF. R3 runs home and is thrown out at the plate.
I thought it was interesting.
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mbyron Thu May 24, 2012 09:20am

It's the old U. of Miami fake pick off. Perfectly legal, well known, still occasionally works.

RadioBlue Thu May 24, 2012 11:14am

I saw a variation of this in one of my games.

R2 on 2B. The catcher came up firing as if he were making a pick-off throw to 2nd base after a pitch. The throw was right at the left shoulder of the pitcher who non-chalantly gloves that throw while the middle infielders dive for the non-existent ball and the outfielders go chasing nothing. Pitcher moves toward third as if to be the backup ... which absolutely sells the play! Meantime R2 and 3B coach buy into the ruse and the coach waves R2 toward 3B ... where the pitcher is waiting for him and makes a tag.

The best part is the team that got duped was giving me trouble all game. Their coach was a real @$$ and one of their players had decided earlier in the game they didn't want to be there anymore.

Ran into the opposing coach later and he told me they practiced that play everyday during workouts, but they had never run it in a game before. As he told me, "Then again, I never came across a coach I wanted to run it on until today." :D

Rita C Thu May 24, 2012 11:39am

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Originally Posted by RadioBlue (Post 843217)

Ran into the opposing coach later and he told me they practiced that play everyday during workouts, but they had never run it in a game before. As he told me, "Then again, I never came across a coach I wanted to run it on until today." :D

Love it

Rita

JR12 Thu May 24, 2012 11:49am

Great story.

bigjohn Thu May 24, 2012 12:34pm

If the defense is yelling get the ball or something like that, does this play become verbal obstruction?

mbyron Thu May 24, 2012 02:24pm

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Originally Posted by bigjohn (Post 843230)
If the defense is yelling get the ball or something like that, does this play become verbal obstruction?

No. The offense has a responsibility to know the location of the ball.

jchamp Thu May 24, 2012 03:04pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigjohn (Post 843230)
If the defense is yelling get the ball or something like that, does this play become verbal obstruction?

To make a call of obstruction, I have to ask myself "What are they obstructing?" The offense is not being tricked into stopping their run. They are running completely under their own effort and with no impediment to their progress. They made horrible base-running decisions.

MD Longhorn Thu May 24, 2012 03:46pm

Verbal obstruction? No such thing. Can't even imagine such a thing.

Steven Tyler Thu May 24, 2012 03:55pm

I believe it is in the FED rule set.

MD Longhorn Thu May 24, 2012 04:16pm

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Originally Posted by Steven Tyler (Post 843264)
I believe it is in the FED rule set.

Just checked and didn't find that term... where do you see it?

nopachunts Thu May 24, 2012 04:34pm

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Originally Posted by mbcrowder (Post 843268)
Just checked and didn't find that term... where do you see it?

2-22-1
ART. 1 . . . Obstruction is an act (intentional or unintentional, as well as physical or verbal) by a fielder, any member of the defensive team or its team personnel that hinders a runner or changes the pattern of play as in 5-1-3 and 8-3-2; or when a catcher or fielder hinders a batter as in 5-1-2b, 8-1-1e, 8-3-1c and 8-3-2. When obstruction occurs, the ball becomes dead at the end of playing action and the umpire has authority to determine which base or bases shall be awarded the runners according to the rule violated (Exceptions 8-4-2c, 8-4-2d).

Dave Reed Thu May 24, 2012 04:39pm

Casebook 2.22.1 Situation A has a related play and uses the phrase "verbal Obstruction".

DG Thu May 24, 2012 09:05pm

This play so well known it has a name, based on the college team to make it famous.

johnnyg08 Thu May 24, 2012 10:01pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by mbcrowder (Post 843268)
Just checked and didn't find that term... where do you see it?


For example, a defensive player couldn't yell "back" like a first base coach.

That is illegal under FED rules.


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